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He has/had good on the ball skills and was less lazy when he was young, thus showed a lot of potential. However, as soon as he started thinking very highly of himself, he became lazy and as he grew older, lost confidence. That was it.

Bit surprised about danny ings reports but then again a few years ago a player like him wouldve never set foot near any liverpool team. Id be surprised if he does end up going because he suits klopps style. I know he isnt going to be prolific but hes a good worker.

Ings has to be given a chance before we sell. before he got injured he looked good, got a few goals and was involved in the games with his all round play, he didn't look out of his depth, As you say he suits Klopps style of play. We ended up paying £6.5 million + £1.5 addon's, so for that sort of money today you won't get much upfront.

If all our forwards are fit, I am guessing the pecking order will be Sturridge/Origi/Firminho/Ings/Benteke(likely to leave).

With Sturridge's injury history and even when fit he won't play everygame, there will be games for Ings and he strikes me as the type who will not cause problems when waiting to play.

we looked and played like a bit of mediocre team under rodgers, ings scored a couple of average goals in the games he played, I don't hold out much hope, I respect your opinion, but I dispute that he looked good as such - he wasn't tested, he strikes me of a cross between robbie keane/vardy at his best. It was fairly shameful this season that Benteke was wearing the number 9.

I doubt firmino will play or start much as a false 9 much next season (even if you're right and he ends up third in the pecking order), like he did against arsenal, doesn't entirely matter as long as we improve our midfield offensively and defensively, then we can be a force. so much required of midfielders in the modern game.

On the subject of firmino, I've already talked about this on the forum, there has never been a relationship between a CAM and a ST like SG and FT. Like chris suggested currently spurs's DA and HK come closest to that, Gerrard raised the bar for me. but it makes me wonder if firmino can develop a relationship like that of our former skipper and ex-top striker, with any current striker in our squad - probably not. I did wonder if it would help if volland came in, it might help firmino develop that relationship, but ultimately I think it's down to firmino and our other midfielders to try and get/work the ball into the forward's feet and play him in.

To be honest the term I use 'relationship' between our 10 and 9, I'm making it sound like something truly magical, I'm over rating it, (nevertheless it would be nice to see players in goalscoring positions being more effective and linking up).

how many times can we actually get firmino directly assisting our forward? we're not going to get anywhere near a free flowing dangerous attack without hard work and players in goalscoring positions proving they are world class. ozil has made 19 assists in the PL this season from cam (the highest), most of them have been directly to the forward, however I think firmino is more a goalscoring type player than a playmaker like mesut is. despite arsenal and liverpool probably using the same shape next season, the way we attack should have differences, so I expect firmino to be more of a goalscoring 10, than a provider. we'll have to see but that's what I hope klopp can help us do.

If Ings turns out to be a decent cross between Keane/Vardy, I would be happy for that. I am not saying he is going to be a top class striker of the quality of FT/Suarez, but he should be given a chance, if after 6-12 months he isn't up to it, sell him. The way Klopp expects his forwards to play closing down/making runs, he will rotate them as no 2 players can play all season, especially with Sturridge playing who will need rest, so we need at least 4 forwards, offering different options.

Torres and Gerrard played together at their peak, they were exceptional players, I hope our current/future players can reach their levels, but it is a big ask, it is like comparing Dalglish & Rush to our current forwards, these partnerships/quality of players are rare, Liverpool have been lucky over the years to have exceptional strikers like Fowler/Suarez/Owen and the above.

Firminho had a decent year for his first In the league, he got goals and created chances for team mates, looking better in the second half of the season. I am hoping he will step up another level this season, Klopp will be playing his system with more of the players he has chosen rather than fitting in players he inherited.

I think our forward line is good, with good options, I would be happy if we bought/sold no forwards, I still think Benteke has something to offer, I am hoping he can adjust his game to suit Klopp, but if a good offer comes in it makes sense to sell. We need more of a threat and goals from midfield, hopefully Klopp wlll work on this, its a shame Mkhitaryan doesn't get on with Klopp, he is very creative, regularly scores goals and would be ideal for our midfield.

Looks like Wanyama is joining Tottenham for £11 million, I thought he would be a good addition to our midfield, he's mobile, powerful, wins the ball and can dominate midfield.

He really turned the game for Southampton when we were 2-0 up and they brought him and Mane on.

at least he's an old fashioned type winger

interesting

It depends how Chelsea play under conte, they don't get many crosses in, but you can see Costa feeding on Benteke nod downs. Hopefully we will hold out for a decent transfer fee like £30 million from Chelsea, rather than selling him cheap to likes of West ham.

I've been impressed by conte, he is getting the best out of a poor Italy squad. I thought conte was after morrata at Juve? I think this could be from Benteke agent to force Liverpool hand.