KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum LFC Summer Transfers & Rumour Thread

But my point is we need to buy the right players for whatever cost be that £1m or £100m.

Your example of Di Maria is a great one for not spending money and to be fair to us we can't afford to make a £60m signing and have it fail just to show intent.

My personal feeling is that Klopp will be making the call on who we sign for whatever price. He is the one that pulled the plug on the Tex deal in January (apparently) when they started to take the p!ss, which for me is a good sign if true.

I trust he'll buy the right players for us and if that doesn't show intent to some then fair enough as long as we do well with who he does buy.

Good point Wilki,I have faith that he'll do a lot better than Bren in that respect but we need a bit of both.

I see what you're saying but imagine we spend £60m on someone like Di Maria and he fails. We'd be ball bagged!

He who dares Wilki.

I dont mean to come across in these things as over the top. I just want our club back at the top. I miss the champions league so much. I miss been excited to watch liverpool and most of our players.

I think at the end of the day we can all agree that FSG appointing Klopp will make or brake their future at liverpool. Hes not the type of manager they would usually go for because he wont stick around for nonsense "oh we nearly signed reus". He will walk unlike brendan if things get to that stage. To be fair to them at least when they sacked BR they listened to the fans, what they wanted not that they had much choice.

So modest too.

What I don't get is how some people think that they either know more than staff at the club that have been working in football for 30 years or that a massive light bulb has appeared above their head and they've thought of something NO ONE within LFC has EVER though of.

EVERYONE connected to LFC knows we've disappointed year after year on the pitch and in the transfer market. The solution is not as simple as "the TV money is here, time to throw it all at Gotze" (example).

Do you not think that even Rodgers knew full well the players he bought weren't really good enough for sustained competitiveness? I'm 29 and for as long as I can remember, we have more often than not, settled for what's available, with the odd exception.

Even the best players we've bought in the last 10 years (Suarez, Torres, Coutinho) were picked as more budget options at the time compared to who the teams above us were buying. I distinctly remember the backlash on here over the Coutinho (Inter reject, too lightweight) and Suarez (never heard of him, not fit to wear #7) signings, despite the fact that someone with WAY more information and experience has deemed them suitable. It is, of course, a 2-way street. Those same people were involved with Carroll (had a banging season the year before, in a team set up to play to his strengths), Downing (bought for Carroll's sake I presume), Markovic (actually perfomred well for Benfica dopmestic + CL), The Summer of Southampton (still paid too much but I'm happy we have Lovren and Lallana now), Aspas (LOL), Alberto (LOL)...the list goes on, but I struggle, I REALLY struggle to believe a whole committee of people thought Aspas was gonna do much more than he actually managed.

Since I've been watching LFC, we have NEVER bought a ready made, in demand player for big bucks. It's not how Liverpool work. Maybe it should be but at the moment it's not.

Everyone else has TV money too so it's not as if we're in any better of a situation with regards to competing in the transfer market than anyone else in the PL. We can offer bigger wages, sure, but we're not in any European competition this year which automatically rules us out of a lot players, regardless of the wages on offer.

End up like Leeds!

Does anyone really believe the higuain links?

Daily express says it's pretty close. Loads of rumours come about saying he wants to work with klopp.

For a guy who has always played CL football seems odd that he would choose to come to us.

re your question wilkij: I think you consistently miss my point on our recruitment policy. It's not about the price we pay, it's about the quality we buy. With rare exceptions the going market value is an excellent indicator of the quality of a player, and I'm talking about proven quality here, not potential quality. I have often said on here that I have no problem with the odd potential gamble, all the top clubs do that but they also invest in proven quality as well. We don't under the current FSG recruitment policy. They're here five years and spent hundreds of millions on a failed policy, pound foolish and penny wise. What I've consistently said is that we need to compete in the transfer market for a reasonable proportion of proven top quality players in terms of fee and wage. All our top competitors are doing that, and it's no accident that with the exception of Chelsea they're all above us in the table. It's long past the time we wised up and dropped this stupid moneyball policy, it's a proven failure.

+1 zillion