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That would be those same people currently running the big propaganda campaign to stay in the EU would it not ?

Yes and the same feckers wanting to get out too, all puppets to the private companies.. in or out. Just with out your more likely going to be build a wall neo liberals like trump ..just foam at the mouth nuts.the next stage right

That's not true the leave campaign is mainly a people street campaign the government has all the resources but despite that the polls are still neck and neck does that not imply the government are out of touch with the will of the people not just in Britain but Europe too. You of course are on the side of the British and American establishment and globalisation some revolutionary you are

I classify myself as completely anti establishment with a fear of the trend towards the far right.. you have to weight the consequences of each option, keep a European Community or go back to fear thy neighbour nation state. For the prospects of an eventual socialist just world I calculate the latter is a much bleaker prospect.

But we have a fear thy neighbour situation in the EU massive political unrest and the migration crisis things are going on, on the outskirts of Paris we never hear about on the news because they are blacked out, Germany has unrest so do the baltics so does Spain and Italy and Greece is now a failed state I can't imagine how you think that is a socialist utopia and the only people trying to hold it together is the very establishment you claim to despise go figure

Not true, even the failed state you called greece, way to the left want to keep the EU community alive.. regressive to the right politics is not the way to go, leads back in time, darker times.

Extreme to the left or right is bad and extreme left are as facist as extreme right. But you get extreme parties when the people are dissatisfied such was the case in the 1930's, We are seeing something similar with the EU today right accross Europe people are rejecting the establishment parties who for years have ignored people particularly on issues like immigration and democracy. The EU is also structurally flawed the euro keeps much of Europe in permanent austerity something I would have thought a revolutionary socialist would have been against. However that's not what you are, are you ? You are a guy that posts on the internet you are no more a revolutionary than I am the England manager you are a supporter of the establishment global corporations and the political establishment in the UK and America both of which want and need the EU to keep the population in check TTIP being one example TTIP is being done in secret by the EU and America hence obamas recent urging the UK to vote to stay in the EU

Right, these aren't scare tactics at all. BWahahaa

As I said, Britain has a veto vote, don't allow these countries that are supposedly taking your money into the EU. Simple.

As far as I see, Stan's main argument is that "Oh you don't live in England" so you don't know. My sister lives in England, has done for the past 20 years, was born in Scotland. That's British if you ask me. She thinks your arguments are...let's say "silly" as I can't really use the words she used to describe them.