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You obviously can't grasp notions of separate agenda's, pretty rudimentary stuff.. But for the record I can't stand Cameron or Boris, but I have my own separate opinion on why a european community is better than having old ww2 era nation states.
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You obviously can't grasp notions of separate agenda's, pretty rudimentary stuff.. But for the record I can't stand Cameron or Boris, but I have my own separate opinion on why a european community is better than have old ww2 era nation states. The objective of World War Two by the nazis was a united Europe ruled by Germany pretty much the EU in 2016 and would it interest you to know the idea for the EU originally came from what remained of the nazi party in the late 1940's. Thanks for mentioning World War Two you reminded me.
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oh so ur going with the nazi party argument. thats a winner.
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oh so ur going with the nazi party argument. thats a winner. You can do better than that or maybe you can't 
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Talking of the nazis see in Austria yesterday a far right political almost became president on an anti EU ticket there is widespread rejection of the European Union unless you are the establishment ordinary people right accross Europe including Ireland I seem to remember a few years ago they voted no to the EU but the EU ignored them which is what the EU does
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Well I am not even going to enter a debate about the EU and Nazi's comparison cause that notion is just desperate stupidity and probably offensive to all the millions of people murdered by invading nazi forces.
A good argument for the EU might be that WW2 was the last big military power struggle in Europe, but my main argument for it is its individual community spirit, regardless of banks & corperations corruption travelling in Europe there is a palpable unspoken community spirit that stems out of socialist thinking.
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Talking of the nazis see in Austria yesterday a far right political almost became president on an anti EU ticket there is widespread rejection of the European Union unless you are the establishment ordinary people right accross Europe including Ireland I seem to remember a few years ago they voted no to the EU but the EU ignored them which is what the EU does Yes the shift to the right is very worrying, trump is insane ,ukip are insane,and nazi parties in europe are insane...they all want what u want
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Well I am not even going to enter a debate about the EU and Nazi's comparison cause that notion is just desperate stupidity and probably offensive to all the millions of people murdered by invading nazi forces.
A good argument for the EU might be that WW2 was the last big military power struggle in Europe, but my main argument for it is its individual community spirit, regardless of banks & corperations corruption travelling in Europe there is a palpable unspoken community spirit that stems out of socialist thinking. It wasn't the EU that created peace in Europe it was NATO the EU has if anything created the conditions fir conflict with the poltical unrest now forming in Southern Europe and Central Europe your notion of a community is well wide of reality. I repeat Austria which years ago was a sleepy liberal country almost (by just 31000 votes) voted in a gun toting far right politician the most far right since hitler the same could be said accross Europe people always rebel against dictators and the EU is a dictatorship
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Talking of the nazis see in Austria yesterday a far right political almost became president on an anti EU ticket there is widespread rejection of the European Union unless you are the establishment ordinary people right accross Europe including Ireland I seem to remember a few years ago they voted no to the EU but the EU ignored them which is what the EU does Yes the shift to the right is very worrying, trump is insane ,ukip are insane,and nazi parties in europe are insane...they all want what u want The EU is fueling the far right only a fool or someone who refuses to see the obvious would not admit that
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The far right are coming in because of capitalist neo liberal economic decisions and capitalist neo liberal blowing the sheet out of the middle east causing a migration crisis.UK/USA thanks for that.
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