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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
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this thread has got redscousers name written all over it, which won't be a problem but I'm guessing bait is going to be real

emphasis on coaches and coach, not manager. can't turn around a team who lose 1 key player, I don't see why he should manage an elite group of players.


Yep that would be my take on it.


He wasn't in control of transfers, wasn't in full control of our style of play, didn't appear to be in charge of the recruitment of backroom staff so I would say yes the emphasis should be on coach.

Rodgers and FSG both made mistakes during their time together yet when it comes to our downfalls people on here want Rodgers to take all the blame.

He probably doesn't have the know-how to make a club consistently successful - not yet at least. But he was and still is a young manager learning and the amount of progression in our players - not just Suarez - was really impressive. He is one of the best young coaches in Europe in my opinion and in the opinion of the best striker in the world.


Just out of interest, how was he not in full control of how we played?

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Torres65
this thread has got redscousers name written all over it, which won't be a problem but I'm guessing bait is going to be real

emphasis on coaches and coach, not manager. can't turn around a team who lose 1 key player, I don't see why he should manage an elite group of players.


Yep that would be my take on it.


He wasn't in control of transfers, wasn't in full control of our style of play, didn't appear to be in charge of the recruitment of backroom staff so I would say yes the emphasis should be on coach.

Rodgers and FSG both made mistakes during their time together yet when it comes to our downfalls people on here want Rodgers to take all the blame.

He probably doesn't have the know-how to make a club consistently successful - not yet at least. But he was and still is a young manager learning and the amount of progression in our players - not just Suarez - was really impressive. He is one of the best young coaches in Europe in my opinion and in the opinion of the best striker in the world.


Just out of interest, how was he not in full control of how we played?


FSG wanted an attractive, attacking style of play because that would make the club more profitable. So not only did they want good results with OK players (in his first season), they wanted them to play in a way which probably wasn't as fruitful as Mourinho's tactics of setting up a team or a more direct style of play. Rodgers naturally sets up teams to play offensive football but there was added pressure from FSG as well.

And when FSG came in they hired a very talented very young manager, wanted to sign predominantly young unproven British players, wanted to get rid of experienced high earners, wanted an attacking style of play, wanted top 4 in their first full season and wanted to win the league in 4 or 5 years I think. It was just so idealistic and this formula wasn't optimal for good results.

Thankfully they've become more astute and now with the undoubted quality of Klopp and FSG with more experience we should really kick on. But that doesn't mean Rodgers wasn't a top coach.


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Without defending BR but if he joins Celtic who will be the first out of Klopp at Liverpool and BR at Celtic to win a trophy?


He couldn't mess up winning a trophy with Celtic could he?

Even Wee Gordon S looked a good manager when he was in charge.

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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser


FSG wanted an attractive, attacking style of play because that would make the club more profitable. So not only did they want good results with OK players (in his first season), they wanted them to play in a way which probably wasn't as fruitful as Mourinho's tactics of setting up a team or a more direct style of play. Rodgers naturally sets up teams to play offensive football but there was added pressure from FSG as well.

And when FSG came in they hired a very talented very young manager, wanted to sign predominantly young unproven British players, wanted to get rid of experienced high earners, wanted an attacking style of play, wanted top 4 in their first full season and wanted to win the league in 4 or 5 years I think. It was just so idealistic and this formula wasn't optimal for good results.

Thankfully they've become more astute and now with the undoubted quality of Klopp and FSG with more experience we should really kick on. But that doesn't mean Rodgers wasn't a top coach.



The way we played was always the way Rodgers teams played. Nothing at all to do with FSG unless they were putting pressure on him at his previous clubs too?

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Originally Posted By Welsh_Wizard
Without defending BR but if he joins Celtic who will be the first out of Klopp at Liverpool and BR at Celtic to win a trophy?


He couldn't mess up winning a trophy with Celtic could he?

Even Wee Gordon S looked a good manager when he was in charge.


Even I could win a trophy with Celtic. I would laugh my arse off though if he went there and came away empty handed.

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I'm quite shocked he's at celtic. Big fanbase but the league isn't great, maybe it's just a stepping stone? Maybe he will win the champions league with the next season, that would outstanding!

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I wonder how many current pool players who played under Rodgers would choose Rodgers over Klopp? Absolutely none would be the answer from all i'd say. And I'd safely say if Suarez had played under Klopp he would said the same.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Without defending BR but if he joins Celtic who will be the first out of Klopp at Liverpool and BR at Celtic to win a trophy?


He couldn't mess up winning a trophy with Celtic could he?

Even Wee Gordon S looked a good manager when he was in charge.


Even I could win a trophy with Celtic. I would laugh my arse off though if he went there and came away empty handed.


Even Barry Chuckle could win the league with Celtic.

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I cant agree he is a good coach at all. The squad was woefully unfit, players were played in the wrong position. Passing and movement off the ball was god-awfully slow. Possession lasted a maximum of 5 passes. The players had little motivation or spirit and after putting in a poor performance were told by BR that they had shown commitment and were outstanding. And in every interview BR would tell the viewers what a famous club Liverpool was and how it was an honor to be the manager.

The man is a total phony.

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