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I actually think he would suit Italian football, where there's more build up play at a slower pace. He's got talent, without a doubt. But in saying that I don't think he can handle the pace of the prem. He definitely isn't a one on one player, and while he can hold the ball up, he's often the last man which slows down the attack and gives oppositions time to recoup.

We'll benefit from having a poacher, someone who knows where to be at the right time but can also make a run in the gaps and beat a keeper. Like Hernandez, Volland or even Michy. Unfortunately, while Big Ben can score great goals, he also influences the play in a negative way because of his style.


Perhaps, a bit like ballotelli suits italian footie. Yea as I've said in the past can only really buy half a yard with his dribbling, for some strikers, that's all they need. Ben is slow to pull the trigger, he has such a powerful shot there is normally a lot behind it.

Our lonestriker needs better dribbling skills, and be able to dribble in tight spaces take defenders on like FT could, sometimes pick the ball up in wide areas and do so, even lukaku is better at taking defenders on and beating them. Seen origi a few times take defenders on as the lonestriker he really is encouraging, obviously this is only One aspect of an ideal striker we need for this role. The only time I've seen ben show something on the ball is away to west ham when he rolled the ball, and slipped it to cout in that fa cup away tie inside the area. Got to make sure a poacher is strong enough to go shoulder to shoulder when he does make the runs in behind and off the shoulder though. I really do believe the lone striker is one of the hardest roles in football to play well in.

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We have Sturidge for the loan striker role, with Origi in the future. I'm talking about what we need in relation to other options that will be a better plan B/plan A against certain defensive opposition.

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Originally Posted By Pops
We have Sturidge for the loan striker role, with Origi in the future. I'm talking about what we need in relation to other options that will be a better plan B/plan A against certain defensive opposition.


We need to replace Benteke and i think Sunderland would pay good money for him

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Originally Posted By Pops
We have Sturidge for the loan striker role, with Origi in the future. I'm talking about what we need in relation to other options that will be a better plan B/plan A against certain defensive opposition.


So klopp isn't going to use the strikers you've named Hernandez, Volland as lonestrikers if he signed them? I'd like if he didn't on occasion, but hopefully we won't be needing to break down sides

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Point missed....where did I say that? The point is, a player with attributes that we don't have. Whether it's with another striker or not. It WILL be hard to find another striker better than Sturidge straight away.

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We have Sturidge for the loan striker role, with Origi in the future. I'm talking about what we need in relation to other options that will be a better plan B/plan A against certain defensive opposition.


We need to replace Benteke and i think Sunderland would pay good money for him


I hope so. Maybe West Ham?

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
even if we keep ben he should not be our main forward and neither should danny its a lottery on how many games over twenty he can put in ! therefore we need a gun striker ben gets injured a bit too , hernandez seems to stay injury free and is a solid performer ?
wasnt he renowned for being off side all the time

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Not sure suso tbh but we need a tcp skiker i dont wnna put my hopes for next season the back of sturridge for no other reason i dont expect him to play the majority of games! he is very injury prone and as we have seen this season we dont play well without a recognized striker, tbh origi could be very good but he is very young and we know that youngsters form is notoriously up and down id rather we bought a real class striker and work out who else up front will compliment him i dont mind keeping danny as a no#2 we would then have some pretty good options up front and not left floundering if danny is out for 4 games at a time


Agree but would just say that I don't think that Origi is a very good striker, he is a hardworker with pace but not clinical. He will not be a 20+ goals striker IMO.

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Not sure suso tbh but we need a tcp skiker i dont wnna put my hopes for next season the back of sturridge for no other reason i dont expect him to play the majority of games! he is very injury prone and as we have seen this season we dont play well without a recognized striker, tbh origi could be very good but he is very young and we know that youngsters form is notoriously up and down id rather we bought a real class striker and work out who else up front will compliment him i dont mind keeping danny as a no#2 we would then have some pretty good options up front and not left floundering if danny is out for 4 games at a time


Agree but would just say that I don't think that Origi is a very good striker, he is a hardworker with pace but not clinical. He will not be a 20+ goals striker IMO.


if he was a 20+ goal a season striker at the age of 21 he'd surely he tapped up by the big clubs. origi's best games this season are undoubtedly his last 5, dortmund away, stoke home, dortmund home, bournemouth away (had 15 mins), and home everton, total of 5 goals in that period. no he's not clinical, we're probably right to see that chance missed against dortmund before half time and say he's not that clinical, but he's young and I look forward to seeing what he can do next season with the additions liverpool make.

here's the question the though Iheanacho or origi? laugh

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Iheanacho could very turn big headed very soon. Remember a game this season after he scored, he wheeled away to do his celebratory thing while the rest of the team headed back to the middle of the park. Turned around and saw no one was with him but still strutted slowly back.
He's very well supported by the other city players to score. Whereas Origi had to do the hard work most of the time. Origi looks more grounded and willing to work.
So... Origi it is laugh

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