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Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


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What aren't Payet or Mahrez in there too? They both play similar positions to Lallana. I like Lallana, kind of like I like Allen. They both handy squad players that can make a difference. We need these types of players in the team, but he was not worth 25mil.

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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


i disagree. everyone fleeces us too .. even though we arent filthy rich as city


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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions


We have regularly been spending big, Benteke costing the same as Costa for example. We need to spend smart now.
The above was said on another thread and I thought we should discuss it. Cannot emphasize it enough IMO. We need to spend smart, not big. Just look at some of the players that were insulted and discarded by fans either because their fee was too low or because they didn't work out under Rodgers but are seemingly different players under Klopp.

Emre Can
Joe Allen
Alberto Moreno
Adam Lallana
Dejan Lovren
Divock Origi
Roberto Firmino

I remember when can was signed people said great, but he isnt good enough, that isn't the calibre of player we should be going for.

I remember people saying Roberto Firmino was one of the biggest flops of the transfer committee, just look at him now, assisting and scoring for fun.

Divock origi was not only slated, but was unwanted, PRIOR to him even playing a game for us. Because he was rated very poorly in his previous season in France. Look at the boy now, playing his heart out for us and doing so very well.

Lovren was lambasted by all, including myself, no one on here thought he was good enough. We got slated for buying players from Southampton but look at how crucial Lovren and Lallana have become for us.

Lallana is an automatic starter under Klopp and has been playing fantastically.

Just goes to show, the transfer committee didn't get it all wrong, they actually got a lot RIGHT, but the manager we had at the time was not the right one to maximize the potential these players had.

Milner is another example of a player who didn't cause much excitement on here, and who we said was a welcome adition but wasn't really what we needed, but just look at the impact he has had. OUTSTANDING contribution.

Of course the TC got some wrong too, like Carroll, Downing, Balloteli etc but the question remains, how would they have performed under Klopp or a more shrewd manager? Also, overall the hit rate of the TC actually seems quite good so perhaps calling for their heads could have more of a negative effect than we thought at first.

We all hated the transfer committee, including myself, thinking they couldn't do anything right. Perhaps it's time we stood back and just watched what these players really have to offer when managed properly and utilized in their natural positions.


i dont think that is quite true especially with can i liked the lad but was played in the wrong position for me playing in mf is where should be and has started to shine
as for the rest
benteke would shine in a team set up for his talents we are not stupid buy by br not bens fault imo - say what?
moreno jury out good going fwd cant defend tho and what is his role ?
lallana good work rate not enough end product tho the last few games have been better , jury out
allen seems to be pulling it together
lovren mmm jury out dont like pressure and cracks jury out
firmino he is a tuff one scores some nice goals but gives the ball away to much and dont track back enough should be contributing more and be a 1st eleven every week based on his price but hes not
origi is one that i can say the committee did ok on so far

but for me we cant buy players we have to wait two or three seasons to come good if we win EL were in cl next season and we need players that can contribute straight away so we have to go with TCP's imo


Yeah, only Firmino has 10 goals and 7 assists in his first season in English football. He has scored with his left foot, right foot and with a header. Not bad for someone who apparently isn't "contributing enough". The only reason Firmino is not a starter week in and week out is because NO ONE in our squad is a gguaranteed starter, because Klopp picks the team that is best for the opponent that week.

Moreno, defensively is frail, admitedly, however he offers a lot going forward and surprisingly is our 3rd best chance creator. Did you know that Alberto Moreno has created the most goalscoring chances of all the premier league defenders this season? 31 goalscoring chances. That's not too bad and obviously, it will come at a price with his defensive duties suffering a bit, but i believe this is the type of fullback Klopp likes.


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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


Sanchez cost 44 mil, Willian was 35 mil, both were quite a bit more expensive than lallana and the stats show that lallana has a higher overall score than Sanchez. Keep in mind that the fact Lallana qualifies as homegrown also raises his price quite a bit.

ALSO, FABREGAS has the same number of goals and less assists. He also cost Chelsea 1 million more and is older and does not qualify as homegrown.

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Originally Posted By Pops
What aren't Payet or Mahrez in there too? They both play similar positions to Lallana. I like Lallana, kind of like I like Allen. They both handy squad players that can make a difference. We need these types of players in the team, but he was not worth 25mil.


Mahrez is in one of the comparisons and has a lower overall score than Lallana. People forget that Payet cost 15 mil and whilst his contribution has been fantastic, he is 29 already and has maybe one more season in him at that top level of performance whereas Lallana has just his prime which is believed to be between 26-30 for attacking mids according to studies.


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Also a key component is the defensive side of their games. For example, Payet won a total of 16 tackles whilst lallana won 43. Payet made 2 clearances, Lallana made 35. Obviously, Lallana's defensive duties will hinder his attacking performance.



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Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
If Sterling and Navas are worth what they are with that kind of contribution, then Lallana is worth 25mil.


So 4 goals is worth 25m? Sterling and Navas cost more because everyone fleeces city for their money. Fabregas, Sanchez, Willian are not much higher than Lallana in price and they have contributed a lot more than this guy has at 25m.


Sanchez cost 44 mil, Willian was 35 mil, both were quite a bit more expensive than lallana and the stats show that lallana has a higher overall score than Sanchez. Keep in mind that the fact Lallana qualifies as homegrown also raises his price quite a bit.

ALSO, FABREGAS has the same number of goals and less assists. He also cost Chelsea 1 million more and is older and does not qualify as homegrown.
i thought sanchez was 35?

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Well, BBC Gossip has Spurs after Lallana for £20m so we might not have to lose too much on him. I'd keep him though unless we get what we paid.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well, BBC Gossip has Spurs after Lallana for £20m so we might not have to lose too much on him. I'd keep him though unless we get what we paid.
Well if they are after him at 20, we will ask for 30 and the realistic value is somewhere in the middle at 25 which seems about right to me. However, I doubt we would sell him to a rival like Spurs especially for 20mil..perhaps if a really, really good offer came in, like 25,000,001.


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