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Personally i wouldnt start couthino or sturridge. Couthino as been losing the ball stupidly lately and its resulted in us conceding goals like what we saw at swansea and at utd in the EL.

As for sturridge we're playing a team thats good at counter attacking. I dont need to point out that sturridge 100% will not track back to try help out defending or try to win the ball back.

Its about time these players with big egos to be start been put in their place.

So in a must win game you wouldn't start our two biggest goal threats? Who will score the goals we need to send us through?

We have defenders to defend. If Sturridge score the goals to get us through I couldn't give a toss if he sits on the side and has a ciggie!

So when he loses the ball trying to beat 7 players like he does in every game and just like what he did 5/6 times against swansea, he doesnt need to try and win the ball back? Thats the problem with liverpool, we have too many players with the mentality they think they are bigger than other players at the club that they dont need to defend when they lose the ball.

Its ok doing it against swansea on a sunday where both teams arent playing for anything really in the league. Come up against the big boys in european football you gonna get punished.

It's not like he's ever been one to defend so why start moaning about it now? It's not like he's Mario Mk2 is it? His main job is to score goals and that is what he will do if supplied properly.

I'd suggest at the moment he is trying too hard or that's what it looks like to me. He is probably doing too much trying to prove he's worth a spot in the starting line up and is getting frustrated when it doesn't come off.

I'd certainly start him on Thursday if he's fit as we need goals and without him we'll struggle. He's our best player and our biggest goal threat so to not play him is a massive decision.

Im not doubting his skill level because he can be world class when he wants. In terms of goalscoring and technique he is our best option but hes far too inconsistent at times.

The only problem i have with him is he tries to beat too many people and is too slow at times to pass the ball. He needs to realise not everything is about him, theres more than 1 player on the pitch. One thing he definitely needs to work on is his weaker foot, i noticed swansea did their homework on him and kept forcing him to his weaker foot.

We have won games and got some fantastic results without him playing. Hes not untouchable or guaranteed to be no1 forward for us. We got results against dortmund, man city and chelsea away without him playing.

Well if we put out the same team as last week I'm not too sure we'll get through. Without Origi and with Benteke being pretty shitte I think it'd be a brave man to leave him out.

yeah to be honest, I don't want to be mean to Ambition, because I understand what he says about attitude, but strikers aren't made to chase back if they lose the ball - that's because they don't normally lose the ball, they normally have a shot before they lose the ball ie it goes out for a goal kick/corner/saved whatever. Okay some strikers, like benteke, might be able to contribute defensively with headers from corners etc, but the best form of defence a striker can do normally is press, and make himself hard to mark/stretch teams in behind, basically attack lul (Ik obvious worth pointing out tho because it's true)

I take both points about sturridge trying to do too much, and swansea doing their homework on him. overall I think liverpool were only prepared to do it if was easy for them, that is the impression I got, and what I'd like to add to why sturridge has come in for a lot of fairly unnecessary stick really.

Anyway when we're all finished deliberating what is best, who needs to change, who is to blame and finished stressing/cacking ourselves about our biggest match of the season. I swear I saw a comment from redneckscouser on the echo site saying if we don't win it's not the end of the world, as we'll have better chance of success in the EPL without the CL next season. Which is quite right, we need to walk on with hope in our hearts no matter the result. Where is redneckscouser btw? do we even have a redneckscouser? Am I going insane? Have I even finished cacking myself? Ngl I'm as stressed af

KP is a redneck.