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I seriously doubt klopp is following orders..make him a crappy manager then. I just think he went negative v Villereal and that he doesn't rate danny's work rate or something. Shame he can't find a place for him, I would say its poor management. If it is one in one out for cheaper the rumour is danny to west ham ,callum wilson to lfc
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yeah u know its a bit dodgy when u have to put his first name into it for identity purposes. not that he ain't talented but its a big gap between wilson and sturridge atm
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I respect Klopp's decision to leave Sturridge on the bench. It's a managers call. But the lad's whinging in the media and bragging about his ambition of leaving to play for a bigger club shows Daniel is an ungrateful egotistical pratt.
The club has stood by him through endless injuries whilst he has earned millions of pounds, and now he is fit he expects to walk back into the side and boats about wanting to better his career elsewhere.
I reckon Klopp has figured this all out some time ago and will not tolerate disloyalty. Is it possible Klopp could be following orders in leaving Sturridge out? I can hear all the cries of 'conspiracy theorist' already but in accordance with the plan/policy, FSG will want to sell at least one decent money earner this season, so its either Sturridge or Coutinho or both. It would suit them very well if Sturridge was to ask for a transfer or maybe his agent put it about that he'd like a move, one way or another there's likely to be a sale and a plausible excuse. That would be worrying. We don't want another manger who simply follows FSG orders. We want to compete, win and entertain. We don't want overly tactical game plans aimed simply at achieving a 0-0 result, esp when you have someone like Sturridge sitting on the bench... and Benteke - a £30m striker. I think Klopp over did on Thursday. It's a European semi-final. I would rather we were more positive, took a risk and lose 2-1 than go for the bore draw. better to give ourselves a chance to get an away goal and lose rather than take no risk and still lose.
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I seriously doubt klopp is following orders..make him a crappy manager then. I just think he went negative v Villereal and that he doesn't rate danny's work rate or something. Shame he can't find a place for him, I would say its poor management. If it is one in one out for cheaper the rumour is danny to west ham ,callum wilson to lfc I think he does rate sturridge's workrate, but I also think he was right to be wary of villarreal's attack at el madrigal, despite their lack of scoring rate in la liga. we stopped the villarreal counter attack well all game, then we put a striker on, villarreal counter attack. probably going to have to run the risk a bit more at anfield. I'm not saying putting a striker on was the definite reason for letting them have a clear cut chance, as there was errors from individual players, but perhaps putting a striker on, also effected the mindset of a few of our players to try and press, get in villarreal's faces further up the pitch and get the winner.
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There's irony in Sturridge wanting game time just when the Euros are coming up, yet when we needed him he wasn't available.
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I respect Klopp's decision to leave Sturridge on the bench. It's a managers call. But the lad's whinging in the media and bragging about his ambition of leaving to play for a bigger club shows Daniel is an ungrateful egotistical pratt.
The club has stood by him through endless injuries whilst he has earned millions of pounds, and now he is fit he expects to walk back into the side and boats about wanting to better his career elsewhere.
I reckon Klopp has figured this all out some time ago and will not tolerate disloyalty. Is it possible Klopp could be following orders in leaving Sturridge out? I can hear all the cries of 'conspiracy theorist' already but in accordance with the plan/policy, FSG will want to sell at least one decent money earner this season, so its either Sturridge or Coutinho or both. It would suit them very well if Sturridge was to ask for a transfer or maybe his agent put it about that he'd like a move, one way or another there's likely to be a sale and a plausible excuse.
We want to compete, win and entertain. We don't want overly tactical game plans aimed simply at achieving a 0-0 result, esp when you have someone like Sturridge sitting on the bench... and Benteke - a £30m striker. I think Klopp over did on Thursday. It's a European semi-final. I would rather we were more positive, took a risk and lose 2-1 than go for the bore draw. better to give ourselves a chance to get an away goal and lose rather than take no risk and still lose. I fully agree with that what if we'd took the risk and lost 2-0 anyway? we are still in the tie, even if we win 1-0 and take it to extra time that is a result against this side, that have beaten real madrid and athletico this season. and no spanish side has gone out to foreign opposition this season.
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[quote=Torres65
what if we'd took the risk and lost 2-0 anyway? we are still in the tie, even if we win 1-0 and take it to extra time that is a result against this side, that have beaten real madrid and athletico this season. and no spanish side has gone out to foreign opposition this season. [/quote]
If by taking a small risk we get beaten 2-0, then so be it. The best team wins. I'm not saying we should've gone gung-ho. Just keep Sturridge or even Benteke up there to take advantage of any half chance that we create.
oh well. too late now. we'll have to do it the hard way.
let' see what happens if we get to the final.
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[quote=Torres65
what if we'd took the risk and lost 2-0 anyway? we are still in the tie, even if we win 1-0 and take it to extra time that is a result against this side, that have beaten real madrid and athletico this season. and no spanish side has gone out to foreign opposition this season. If by taking a small risk we get beaten 2-0, then so be it. The best team wins. I'm not saying we should've gone gung-ho. Just keep Sturridge or even Benteke up there to take advantage of any half chance that we create. oh well. too late now. we'll have to do it the hard way. let' see what happens if we get to the final. [/quote] true, if I knew klopp was going to play 2 up front I probably would have been tempted to start sturridge, and get him in the box and stretching villarreal.
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This thread has turned into a shitt-shower of hyperbole hasn't it?
Moreno squares it on that breakaway and we win 1-0 or draw 1-1. None of this Klopp finger-wagging would be happening. Anyone would think we got spanked 3-0 or the tie was over. Ah I think people have a right to question it since liverpool didn't carry a goal threat all match/evening pretty much. I agree though - we could have still potentially won it, moreno showed good pace in the first place to get that chance. and lallana should have been ruled onside. if we had won it, or drawn, you're right none of the finger wagging would be happening most probably.
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