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I respect Klopp's decision to leave Sturridge on the bench. It's a managers call. But the lad's whinging in the media and bragging about his ambition of leaving to play for a bigger club shows Daniel is an ungrateful egotistical pratt.
The club has stood by him through endless injuries whilst he has earned millions of pounds, and now he is fit he expects to walk back into the side and boats about wanting to better his career elsewhere.

I reckon Klopp has figured this all out some time ago and will not tolerate disloyalty.

The problem is that you can't compare the german league(with 2 good teams, 1-2 decent teams and 16 fillers) to the competitiveness of the BPL or any european competition. firminho has some decent skills but does not have that extra quality, consistency or any real pace/strength and I would not want to have to rely on him to score in a crucial game. Sturridge while flawed, has far better goalscoring statistics than firminho has(in england or germany). He's also far quicker and has the ability to go behind the defence which is really needed against teams that try defend deep.

I'm not saying get rid of firminho on the cheap as I still think he has something to offer, but for my money I would start sturridge ahead of firminho as the lone striker anytime, esp in a crucial game.

Okay I get your point, but I can compare because it's one of the big four, and it has a lot more decent teams than you are stating, were augsburg not decent?

Yeah I'm not saying I'd always start firmino ahead of DS in every high profile game as a striker, it also depends on who else is available/injured, but I wouldn't rely on sturridge to score in a crucial game either, he's not suited to being a lonestriker, he's learning that role. Sturridge didn't have much of a chance in the capital cup final against city.

hang on, I'm not sure if klopp knew that villarreal would defend deep, perhaps they might have defended higher if sturridge had been on, we can't be certain if klopp made a mistake in not starting sturridge. tbh asianred I didn't even know klopp would go for more of a 442 than a 433.

+1 bro

says i will never say * Liverpool till i die*

wow. thats rich coming from a crocked ungrateful superstar

he's speaking the truth though, which is why players like gerrard are the exception rather than the rule. If Klopp chooses to bench sturridge for all the big matches in the future, it would be crazy for an ambitious hungry striker to be happy with his situation. In fact, I would be more concerned if he chose to sit on the bench content with collecting his paycheck. Those guys are usually the losers who don't improve(think of joe cole among many others).

He probably could have been more tactful with his words though.

If Sturridge isn't suited to be the lone striker, then what is Firmino doing in that role?

IMO he certainly isn't a lone striker - I wouldn't even want to call a striker at all.

Firmino is a CAM in my world. He might work as a winger too - in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 formation.

firmino wasn't a lonestriker against villarreal, but he has done pretty well as one this season for us. he's a cam in my world too, I've repeatedly said that is his best position, that's why I'm not prepared to right him off as a cam, even if he's not creating and scoring enough goals/being more effective from there at present

Is it possible Klopp could be following orders in leaving Sturridge out? I can hear all the cries of 'conspiracy theorist' already but in accordance with the plan/policy, FSG will want to sell at least one decent money earner this season, so its either Sturridge or Coutinho or both. It would suit them very well if Sturridge was to ask for a transfer or maybe his agent put it about that he'd like a move, one way or another there's likely to be a sale and a plausible excuse.

but won't whoever they bring in, in place of either player (assuming benteke is sold aswell?), be on a similar high wage demand. I mean even one of our most hard workers/productive passers, free transfer milner was brought in with one of the highest wages. I'm not sure how replacing one high wage with perhaps another would help any club related plan that much?