KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Perspective...we need a new back 5

Our goalkeeper and entire back four are not good enough. Imagine what klopp could do with a few decent defenders in his side. And while we are at it lallana isn't good enough either, no end product.

Still we won the European cup with djimi traore!

Our left side is weakest, moreno and sakho, mignolet he has done ok, but we're already trying to vastly improve these positions if we can.You say imagine what klopp can do, but we were unbeaten in 6/7 (if you count normal time of the league cup final) before southampton, now we're unbeaten in 4. So they haven't been that bad. I wonder if I would be saying this had dejan not scored....hmm xD no, you're right to be critical

The outside positions of our attack need strengthening, this is also very important, and I don't know if any of you thought the same but while firmino played okay, he's not been as effective the last 3 games in the centre of our attack, albiet he's played 13, 63 and 62 minutes in those matches, might be to do with not having the best outside attacking players, because he did link up with coutinho a few times well.

What interests me is like people were pointing out in the shoutbox during first half. The positions our midfielders were picking the ball up were so deep, like we were away against dortmund, trying to play it out from the back, I didn't see dortmund come under any sort of this kind of pressure. We won the possession battle in the end though 58% to 41% I know this is partly because dortmund dropped back a bit because they were protecting aggregate lead, but we stuck at it.

Nevertheless I thought it was a fully deserved win, even if this team doesn't have the most quality its tenacity is top draw. 4 shots on target 4 goals hahahaha

I think it's a little harsh. Lovren has been majorly improved, and with more time together I think him and Sakho could form a solid partnership, and if they keep contributing with goals then even better.

Clyde has also been decent.

I would agree with Moreno and Mignolet though, they're the weak links. If we could upgrade them then we could have a strong defence

The back 4 were all over the place last night, migs had one of his better games. That was champs league level football so if we do qualify we will need better.

We were so open at the at the start against Dortmund I think any defense in the world would be vulnerable to conceding.

And because Dortmund conceded 4 do they need a new back 5 as well?

A game as end-to-end and open as it was made for a really entertaining match with lots of chances for both teams. Our defending could have been better but it was mainly the way both teams setup that made the scoreline so high.

Lallana does have end product. He set up Origi for a chance last night. He set Coutinho up for a chance in the first leg.

Origi hasn't been good enough up until the last 3 games and Emre Can has been inconsistent this season. Those two will need replacing for sure. In fact all our striker haven't been good enough this season our midfield has been weak as well. We may as well replace every player in the squad because they're not good enough. Even though we beat one of the best teams Europe and showed tremendous fight none of them are good enough.

Lol! maybe we can replace Origi and Can with borini and Alberto....

Do you think Matip will be 1st choice.....who will he replace. And what now for Skrtel?

I know you're not posing the question to me, but Matip has to be, we have to at least see the partnership between lovren and matip. I haven't a clue about Skrtel but he partly redeemed himself in that 4-1 home win over stoke.

I'm not sure, I guess it'll depend how Lovren and Sakho do til the end of the season, then how Matip does in preseason.

I think skrtle is finished as a first choice starter to be honest. He's alright as back up but he could be moved on