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thats just rubbish my friend, people always remember the bad more than the good, I know most Liverpool fans will remember the good in Gerrard but when we get to not winning the League for 50 years that slip will overshadow the good he did. I don't know why the bad gets remembered but just as many people remember Zidane for the headbut and Cantona for the Kung fu Kick as they do about all the good they do. What's that famous saying a lifetime building a reputation and a moment of madness to ruin it, harsh but true. Speak for yourself, i'm not sure you can tar everyone else with having the same attitude that you have. By your own admission you see everything through $hit tinted spectacles where as most people can still feel some kind of positive thoughts towards the club and our players (past and present). I'm happy to let the opposition be the haters, that's generally how it works; however, it would take more than an unfortunate slip in a game to taint what i think about a player like Gerrard.
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Anyone can slip at the wrong time but it doesn't and won't define Gerrards career.
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thats just rubbish my friend, people always remember the bad more than the good, I know most Liverpool fans will remember the good in Gerrard but when we get to not winning the League for 50 years that slip will overshadow the good he did. I don't know why the bad gets remembered but just as many people remember Zidane for the headbut and Cantona for the Kung fu Kick as they do about all the good they do. What's that famous saying a lifetime building a reputation and a moment of madness to ruin it, harsh but true. Speak for yourself, i'm not sure you can tar everyone else with having the same attitude that you have. By your own admission you see everything through $hit tinted spectacles where as most people can still feel some kind of positive thoughts towards the club and our players (past and present). I'm happy to let the opposition be the haters, that's generally how it works; however, it would take more than an unfortunate slip in a game to taint what i think about a player like Gerrard. So say in 20 or 30 years time someone says Keving Keegan manager, will the majority of people say oh yes Keving Keegan, he took Newcastle United to second place or are they more likely to say oh Yes Keegan " I would love it if we beat them " and the man who blew a massive lead and should of won the League, talking 20 years time here...
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I'll always remember Kev for falling off his bike in Superstars.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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thats just rubbish my friend, people always remember the bad more than the good, I know most Liverpool fans will remember the good in Gerrard but when we get to not winning the League for 50 years that slip will overshadow the good he did. I don't know why the bad gets remembered but just as many people remember Zidane for the headbut and Cantona for the Kung fu Kick as they do about all the good they do. What's that famous saying a lifetime building a reputation and a moment of madness to ruin it, harsh but true. Speak for yourself, i'm not sure you can tar everyone else with having the same attitude that you have. By your own admission you see everything through $hit tinted spectacles where as most people can still feel some kind of positive thoughts towards the club and our players (past and present). I'm happy to let the opposition be the haters, that's generally how it works; however, it would take more than an unfortunate slip in a game to taint what i think about a player like Gerrard. So say in 20 or 30 years time someone says Keving Keegan manager, will the majority of people say oh yes Keving Keegan, he took Newcastle United to second place or are they more likely to say oh Yes Keegan " I would love it if we beat them " and the man who blew a massive lead and should of won the League, talking 20 years time here... Speak for yourself. As i said earlier, the opposition will love to continue singing about Gerrard slipping on his ar$e but i'm positive that in the minds of LFC fans moments like Istanbul, the cup final goal, Olympiakos and the derby hattrick etc will be far more prominent. You naturally were towards the negative and i pity you for that slightly as it's a very unhealthy mindset, but most people don't!
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thats just rubbish my friend, people always remember the bad more than the good, I know most Liverpool fans will remember the good in Gerrard but when we get to not winning the League for 50 years that slip will overshadow the good he did. I don't know why the bad gets remembered but just as many people remember Zidane for the headbut and Cantona for the Kung fu Kick as they do about all the good they do. What's that famous saying a lifetime building a reputation and a moment of madness to ruin it, harsh but true. Speak for yourself, i'm not sure you can tar everyone else with having the same attitude that you have. By your own admission you see everything through $hit tinted spectacles where as most people can still feel some kind of positive thoughts towards the club and our players (past and present). I'm happy to let the opposition be the haters, that's generally how it works; however, it would take more than an unfortunate slip in a game to taint what i think about a player like Gerrard. So say in 20 or 30 years time someone says Keving Keegan manager, will the majority of people say oh yes Keving Keegan, he took Newcastle United to second place or are they more likely to say oh Yes Keegan " I would love it if we beat them " and the man who blew a massive lead and should of won the League, talking 20 years time here... Speak for yourself. As i said earlier, the opposition will love to continue singing about Gerrard slipping on his ar$e but i'm positive that in the minds of LFC fans moments like Istanbul, the cup final goal, Olympiakos and the derby hattrick etc will be far more prominent. You naturally were towards the negative and i pity you for that slightly as it's a very unhealthy mindset, but most people don't! how is it unhealthy, I could easily say it's unhealthy for you to look at a positive, that's how it works, you are looking specifically at how Liverpool will view Gerrard, the thing is the Liverpool point of view is miniscule compared with the rest of football and they will see the negative, that's what happens. You have to remember people concentrate on negatives, like I keep telling people you learn nothing from what you do well it's what you don't do well that needs concentrating on and putting right. Why is it Newspapers sell more papers when the headlines are bad, if they were full of good news stories they wouldn't sell a paper. I think you really do need to come out of your little Liverpool bubble and try and look at the bigger picture regarding Gerrard, to say he won't be remembered for costing Liverpool Football Club the title is a bit nieve...
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Don't you think people will take you more seriously if you are both positive and negative spangles?
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Don't you think people will take you more seriously if you are both positive and negative spangles? dunno who takes who seriously on here tbh, if people read somethin they like they take it serious if they don't like it they won't, simple as, don't think the person saying it matters really. I like to look at the negative side it's far more interesting and you can find out more about what you need to get to the top, think all the greats in sport concentrate on what they should do better, when you just look at what your good at you get complacent as we found to our cost under John Smith and Peter Robinson 30 years ago. Here's a quick question to what do you get remembered for, John Aldridge, Now Aldo was a very, very good player for us, leagues top scorer and scored many an important goal, now where 21 years ahead of his last game, what will he be remembered for, being the Good player he was and League top scorer or the man who missed the penalty against Wimbledon in the Cup final 1988...
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Don't you think people will take you more seriously if you are both positive and negative spangles? dunno who takes who seriously on here tbh, if people read somethin they like they take it serious if they don't like it they won't, simple as, don't think the person saying it matters really. I like to look at the negative side it's far more interesting and you can find out more about what you need to get to the top, think all the greats in sport concentrate on what they should do better, when you just look at what your good at you get complacent as we found to our cost under John Smith and Peter Robinson 30 years ago. Here's a quick question to what do you get remembered for, John Aldridge, Now Aldo was a very, very good player for us, leagues top scorer and scored many an important goal, now where 21 years ahead of his last game, what will he be remembered for, being the Good player he was and League top scorer or the man who missed the penalty against Wimbledon in the Cup final 1988... There is nothing wrong with having a realistic outlook but of course its unhealthy to be constantly negative, it's draining and not just on the individual but on those around you. It's an awful trait to have. Also, I'm not saying that the slip won't be remembered; however, it will only be the overwhelming memory for the opposition because it's in their interest to concentrate on the negatives. To a certain extent you are amongst this group as you simply can't think or say anything positive about LFC. Another example being Suarez, yes he was responsible for some outrageous and unacceptable things whilst at our club but most on here still recognise him as one of our greatest ever players because the guy was world class. The same would go for Man Utd fans feelings towards Cantona and it depends to a large extent on the perspective you're looking at it from. The perfect example being that you can't see any positives towards Suarez but you wouldn't say a bad word against Sterling. As for newspapers selling by concentrating on the negative with sensational headlines, yes that's true, but thats because they want to make money by feeding off the fears and resentment of gullible members of the public. For that reason I wouldn't go anywhere near dross like the Daily Mail etc.
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Don't you think people will take you more seriously if you are both positive and negative spangles? dunno who takes who seriously on here tbh, if people read somethin they like they take it serious if they don't like it they won't, simple as, don't think the person saying it matters really. I like to look at the negative side it's far more interesting and you can find out more about what you need to get to the top, think all the greats in sport concentrate on what they should do better, when you just look at what your good at you get complacent as we found to our cost under John Smith and Peter Robinson 30 years ago. Here's a quick question to what do you get remembered for, John Aldridge, Now Aldo was a very, very good player for us, leagues top scorer and scored many an important goal, now where 21 years ahead of his last game, what will he be remembered for, being the Good player he was and League top scorer or the man who missed the penalty against Wimbledon in the Cup final 1988... There is nothing wrong with having a realistic outlook but of course its unhealthy to be constantly negative, it's draining and not just on the individual but on those around you. It's an awful trait to have. Also, I'm not saying that the slip won't be remembered; however, it will only be the overwhelming memory for the opposition because it's in their interest to concentrate on the negatives. To a certain extent you are amongst this group as you simply can't think or say anything positive about LFC. Another example being Suarez, yes he was responsible for some outrageous and unacceptable things whilst at our club but most on here still recognise him as one of our greatest ever players because the guy was world class. The same would go for Man Utd fans feelings towards Cantona and it depends to a large extent on the perspective you're looking at it from. The perfect example being that you can't see any positives towards Suarez but you wouldn't say a bad word against Sterling. As for newspapers selling by concentrating on the negative with sensational headlines, yes that's true, but thats because they want to make money by feeding off the fears and resentment of gullible members of the public. For that reason I wouldn't go anywhere near dross like the Daily Mail etc. the greatest ever player Maradonna is remembered more for negative things so if he is there's nothing down for anybody else. The Suarez thing you mention is slightly different, I made the point that he wasn't world class at Liverpool for the simple reason the League Cup Final against Cardiff City is not the highest level you can play at...
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