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Benteke has never really played quite well for us. He's got a few goals but very few stand out performances. All this is, is another dig at Klopp. Nothing more.
And you've not answered my question regarding Rodgers and Mario but that probably doesn't suit your agenda against Klopp. You took lots of digs at Rodgers and so did a lot of others on here. With the same players, results have been very similar between Rodgers and Klopp.
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brodge couldn't host a p**s up in a brewery so why should Jurgen clean up after him?
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Benteke has never really played quite well for us. He's got a few goals but very few stand out performances. All this is, is another dig at Klopp. Nothing more.
And you've not answered my question regarding Rodgers and Mario but that probably doesn't suit your agenda against Klopp. You took lots of digs at Rodgers and so did a lot of others on here. With the same players, results have been very similar between Rodgers and Klopp. I think if you look back, I've defended Rodgers more than most. I even defended you when you first came on when people were slating you for your opinion of Rodgers. Rodgers didn't work out. Plain and simple. All these little digs at Klopp at every opportunity isn't healthy. He'll suffer the same fate as Rodgers if things don't work out as will any manager. You say results have been no better which is true but the signs are there that Klopp will do some good things. For me he has the same players playing better but we still have the same old problem with finishing things off. The players he's been left with aren't really capable of much more and he's no miracle worker. Give him a chance to get his own players in and to get them playing how he wants and then judge, as most did with Rodgers.
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Benteke has never really played quite well for us. He's got a few goals but very few stand out performances. All this is, is another dig at Klopp. Nothing more.
And you've not answered my question regarding Rodgers and Mario but that probably doesn't suit your agenda against Klopp. You took lots of digs at Rodgers and so did a lot of others on here. With the same players, results have been very similar between Rodgers and Klopp. Atleast klopp tried to get liverpool playing attacking football with the players available. Players I might add who didn't really know what their style of football was going into the season, first it was 'unpredictable' [oops] long to benteke, before last 20 minute change to bring Can on, to allow us to control the midfield for coutinho to fire the winner against stoke, then it was park the bus at arsenal, followed by some other displeasing matches, then rodgers switched to a back 3 in his final 2 games at anfield (which I still think was the right decision and I would of liked us to kept going with- which brought that run of 13 unbeaten last season) the point is, he didn't have much of a clue what to do with the squad, under pressure to get results (after more money down the drain) and the pressure told. Klopps given the fans something to cheer about, league cup final, some exciting high tempo football that have brought some notable results. even if we haven't found real consistency the players have done fairly well to come together as part of a team under klopp, players like milner, lallana, and coutinho (as he always does) have dug in to try and forge something from this season. After the changes we make in the summer, it will take some time for some of the players to understand their role in klopps side, it will be like working with a new team after 4-6 new faces coming in, they could take off or they could take about half a season to work out what works and what doesn't.
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If Klopsy is such a good manager he should be able to get a tune out of Big Ben, I don't believe Benteke is a lost cause, he was one of the top strikers in the League. The thing which doesn't reflect well on Klopsy is that he seemed to write him off about a week and a half after working with him, surely that's far too short a time to just write somebody of with Bentekes ability. If you look at past players if we took Klopsys way of managing Peter Beardsley would of been out the door and so would Ronaldo if he was manager of United, some players are late bloomers, Benteke for me still has attributes we can utilise and if Klopsy is such a good manager then he should be able to get them out of him... You're partially correct. But Benteke has to meet him half way and do what he's told to do. Anyone that has watched us play can see that Benteke is making no real effort and simply doesn't have the intelligence to be anything more than target man. He is extremely limited and does not fit Liverpool's style of playing at all. Rodgers needs to take the blame for this one. Klopp mismanaged him. The things Klopp said in the press, not adapting the system at all for Benteke, dropping him out the team after a poor performance. If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengths then he's not going to perform to his best. Considering we have been short of goals this season he could have at least tried to integrate him into the team. Not every player should be treated as a spoilt child with fragile feelings. Sometimes you need a kick up the bracket to motivate you. Rodgers humiliated Mignolet in a far more obvious way than how Klopp has 'treated' Benteke. It's a managers job to push/pull, encourage and punish players in the way that they feel will work the best.
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Well not much of a good attitude by Benteke to go mouthing off to the media about the manager and team not playing to his strength is there?
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Well not much of a good attitude by Benteke to go mouthing off to the media about the manager and team not playing to his strength is there? Exactly. His job is to follow instructions, perform, and adapt where necessary. If we signed him simply to play to his strengths then we'd morph into Aston Villa. Its his job to do things our way. Moaning about it when he's usually the worst player on the pitch is just taking the p1ss. For the record, he must be the most useless striker of all time in a one-on-one situation!
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If you have low confidence, you are more likely to miss a chance.
Benteke was playing quite well at the start of the season under Rodgers and we weren't crossing it all the time. Bearing in mind he scored at home to Leicester then missed an open goal in the last minute, scored away at Sunderland then did the same, there isn't an excuse for that. He played the full 90mins in both games, scored the winners so there is no way he should have been short of confidence in those games. He also missed a hatful of chances away at West Ham in the FA Cup, he could haver had a hat trick in the first period of extra time and we should have gone through.
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Its clear Benteke doesn't figure in Klopps plans long term, so he will be sold in the summer, I just hope we get a decent bid, I don't want him sold off to West Ham for £15 millions, another Andy Carrol where we lose £20 million.
I still don't understand why we bought him, he was never going to fit into Rodgers way of playing and the powers that be must have had Klopp in mind if/when they replaced Rodgers (this was his last throw of Rodgers dice), he would never have fit in with Klopp either. All these stories of Klopp wanting him at Dortmund are just to try to give confidence and stop the rumours.
I think half the reason we bought him is that he always played well against us, like in the FA Cup semi final, but that's no reason to buy a player, he was the focul point of their attacks at Villa, he was never going to be that at Liverpool..
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I wish people would stop giving rogers so much abuse for signing players he never wanted such as Balotelli and it's about time people directed their anger at the transfer committee who have so far got away with being totally inept at their jobs.I hope Klopp has the last say in future signings or otherwise we might end up in the bottom 6 next season.
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