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Klopp,Rafa,Guardiola,Moronhino(probably),Wenger and probably Conte in the same league next season...Delicious 
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He has proven with clubs to be a great manager. At others, not very good. He deserves time like any manager, and how long has he been there? Not even a year. He inherited a team that had managed 20 points in their previous 26 league games! People can point to signings, but nobody, either press or pundit related, defends the players in this. So what does it say about Newcastle if another manager leaves. Players need to be sold and the club needs to stick together until that summer change-around. Its way too easy these days to think the grass is always greener. Revolutions rarely happen, and being in a three-way fight to survive is going to be there with or without McClaren, and at least McClaren isn't going into that period blindly.
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He has proven with clubs to be a great manager. He is not even close to being a great manager. He has won one League Cup with Middlesbrough in this country where he did a decent job fair enough but he has never made the step up. One Dutch title with Twente and that's it, he's managed 9 teams if you include England and his coaching role at QPR.
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Why does his coaching get included. That wouldn't include his Darlington coaching days right?
Twente under him were very very good. Wolfsburg were decent. Derby were good under him. Middlesbrough had strong years under him. Dodgy English keepers cost him the England job. At Forest he barely had a chance. So I say again. He has proven to be a great manager at clubs, and at other clubs, he hasn't. Why give him money to spend if you're going to get rid before they've settled since January.
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Why does his coaching get included. That wouldn't include his Darlington coaching days right?
Twente under him were very very good. Wolfsburg were decent. Derby were good under him. Middlesbrough had strong years under him. Dodgy English keepers cost him the England job. At Forest he barely had a chance. So I say again. He has proven to be a great manager at clubs, and at other clubs, he hasn't. Why give him money to spend if you're going to get rid before they've settled since January. He was a senior coach at QPR in 2013, that's why I mentioned it. Great managers are Mourinho, Wenger, Ancelotti, Ferguson, etc. McClaren isn't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as any of them. I don't recall Derby or Forest getting promoted under him so how did he do a good job?
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I read a good article by Jenas saying he was a great coach but couldn't translate that to management. I wanted him to do well at Newcastle but ashley must be desperate to keep them up with the $ next season. He's actually spent money this year!
Very conflicted as I've disliked Newcastle fans since they wanted Bobby out for finishing something like 6th...
I hope he goes there and keeps them up. I confess to loving the guy. He's in a no-lose situation really. Game in hand, 1 point from safety and he'll tighten them up and I think keep them up. Hopefully instead of Sunderland..
He clearly loves the Premiership and sees an opportunity in Newcastle. Suprised given Ashleys lack of spending though and the farce it's been there.
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I read a good article by Jenas saying he was a great coach but couldn't translate that to management. I wanted him to do well at Newcastle but ashley must be desperate to keep them up with the $ next season. He's actually spent money this year!
Very conflicted as I've disliked Newcastle fans since they wanted Bobby out for finishing something like 6th...
I hope he goes there and keeps them up. I confess to loving the guy. He's in a no-lose situation really. Game in hand, 1 point from safety and he'll tighten them up and I think keep them up. Hopefully instead of Sunderland..
He clearly loves the Premiership and sees an opportunity in Newcastle. Suprised given Ashleys lack of spending though and the farce it's been there.
Is that Maclaren?
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yeh Rafa has guts, I will be a bit surprised if he goes to the Toon but I hope he does well where ever he goes, until he plays us that is  He wants to manage here and be nearer his family, it will be good to see him in the dug out at Anfield again too. A True Legend! X Yes I agree Lain, he made a significant contribution to us, and that should never forgotten. I was never a big fan of his style of play, but I would never deny or diminish his contribution to us. Anyway if he does take on the task of keeping what looks like a doomed side up, I’m with you in wishing him the best, hope he succeeds.
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