KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Stats say Klopp has not performed at BR's level

Correct. It's impossible. Ideally you would want only one variable (the manager) and all other things equal. But that is never going to be the case even if we did a comparison in a few years time when Klopp has been in post the same time as Rodgers. So it's always going to be about perception, judgement, opinion etc... i.e. subjective.

My view is that Rodgers got sacked because our performance last season and this season despite the money spent on transfers. Crucially, he seemed to have run out of ideas/enthusiasm/credibility.

In some ways it may have been a cynical move by FSG to protect their own backsides as putting a new man in buys them time. They are lucky that they managed to get a person that not many could argue against at the time.

I don't think everyone here holds the view that Klopp is doing better. The table looks the same as it did under Rodgers.

But most probably do agree that Klopp is a breath of fresh air; that Klopp's approach is more open, honest and positive; and that going forwards Klopp is a better prospect for LFC than Rodgers.

So you know it's not a fair comparison yet title the thread 'Stats that say Klopp isn't performing at BR's level'?

It's absolute nonsense that has just clogged up 6 pages of the forum just because you seem to not be able to let Brendan go!

I'm not disagree with you wilkkij but if this was posted after the aup article, wouldn't it be classed as a personal attack

Rodgers got sacked for 8 games+the season before that. Do your stats on those game and come back

Don't know and don't care anymore

Yes it is mainly subjective however people on here are saying Klopp is doing better as if it is a given or a fact. When you get the stats it's not a fact.

Your post is fine but I don't agree with the honest bit. I would like to think that both managers are very honest.

But Rogers never got us to a final and always went out of Europe after the first round. Is that not factual or you are only looking at the league?

It is a load of nonsense this thread (not just my post) and I probably shouldn't have posted it looking back. But why is their another section of users on here who at every possible opportunity will try and discredit him? It works two ways.

No the stats I used in my original post clasded any win in an any competition as 3 points.

Whenever anyone expresses an opinion, it's almost always expressed in a way that comes across as a factual statement. That's just the way it is. And as you yourself have already acknowledged, stats can't always prove things decisively so getting 'the stats' doesn't solve anything. Sometimes we just have to acknowledge that there is no wrong or right ... just opinion.

As for the question of honesty, without proof or knowing either person personally, yes we'd like to think that bot are relatively honest. However, we have more experience of Rodgers than we do have Klopp and in that time Rodgers has given us sufficient cause to have doubts about his honesty.