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So there weren't another 10 players on the pitch? Fancy that. Must have been some game.

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
They're not excuses but facts. Look at the season as a whole and the TEAM was pretty damn good. Supply to the front men was good so we scored a bucket load of goals. The defence was always shakey and you could also argue if they'd been better on those days we could also have won something?
yes I know how the team played but the point I am making is the world class, main players, top players or whatever you want to call them come alive at the business end of the season, that's when they come into there own even the stakes are at there highest and the pressure is on, this is what sets world class apart from very good or top on the player rankings. For whatever reason Susrez couldn't manage to step up, that's the bottom line and the main FACT in all this...


But the whole dynamic of the team was different on those days as they were in some very poor games earlier in that season. As good as he was he couldn't do it all on his own as no player ever has. Doesn't make him any worse a player for it though.
Diego Maradonna 1986 did it on his own...


No he didn't. There were 10 other players on the pitch as with every football match.

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Diego Maradonna is quite rightly regarded as the greatest player the game has ever produced and in 1986 he carried not only the team but the whole nation on his shoulders. I will tell you something else he virtually did exactly the same thing for Napoli too, check the records and go into a bit of detail and see how much of an impact he had on those two teams then tell me again he never did it on his own...

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My Bro in law used to have hair like Maradonna,he had a tash too and looked like a Mexican bandito.


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He was the best player on the pitch, but there were other players on his team. In the whole tournament he scored 5 goals out of the team's 14. He was their captain, their talisman, and their biggest contributor, but they needed Jorge Valdano's 4 goals as well as the rest of the team's to get through. He didn't do it himself. He didn't even score in the final!

Also, whether he is the greatest is debatable and saying as he is regarded as such is a gross generalization. Many (and probably more) assert that Pele was better. Some say that Messi is better, or even Ronaldo.

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When zidane said Gerrard was the best player you dismissed it

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Diego Maradonna is quite rightly regarded as the greatest player the game has ever produced and in 1986 he carried not only the team but the whole nation on his shoulders. I will tell you something else he virtually did exactly the same thing for Napoli too, check the records and go into a bit of detail and see how much of an impact he had on those two teams then tell me again he never did it on his own...


Pele is regarded as the greatest footballer ever

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Diego Maradonna is quite rightly regarded as the greatest player the game has ever produced and in 1986 he carried not only the team but the whole nation on his shoulders. I will tell you something else he virtually did exactly the same thing for Napoli too, check the records and go into a bit of detail and see how much of an impact he had on those two teams then tell me again he never did it on his own...


Pele is regarded as the greatest footballer ever
He can deffo keepy uppy the longest.


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Originally Posted By Spangles
Diego Maradonna is quite rightly regarded as the greatest player the game has ever produced and in 1986 he carried not only the team but the whole nation on his shoulders. I will tell you something else he virtually did exactly the same thing for Napoli too, check the records and go into a bit of detail and see how much of an impact he had on those two teams then tell me again he never did it on his own...


I already know how good he was and what he did for Napoli. But everyone on that team contributed and had to supply him.

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Maradonna in footballing terms carried Argentina and Napoli, yes he had 10 other players in the team but It was Maradonna on his own that won them those titles, he was the only footballer on the planet capable of doing that. I think it's a case of what flavour player you want when it comes to the best out of Maradonna or Pele, bit like whose the best Beatle Lennon or McCartney, got me its Maradonna but that's my opinion both are worthy of that title...

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