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Don't know, Benitez and Gerrard won the European Cup so what do you think?

am just wondering about your criteria that's all, let me just try and get this straight in my head, from what you have told me you say there are levels, Houllier who won F.A Cup, League Cups and UEFA cups is not at the world class level as Ancelotti or Say Benitez because he never won the League or European Cup which your basically saying is the highest level, that part rite. You again mentioned in another thread that Steve Bull who scored all those goals in the third and fourth divisions was also not top quality because again he was not scoring goals and winning at the top level, this is correct up to now. Well what I want to know based on exactly and you mean using your very own criteria and logic, how can Michel Owen who never won a League championship at Liverpool or even appeared in the champions league be world class and how can Luis Suarez who again never won any Leagues or European cups and also never appeared in the champions league while he was at Liverpool also be regarded as World class after you just saying winning Leagues and European cups is the highest level, your words not mine.

Please answer this for me and don't forget we can clearly see your logic from your previous posts, please don't use the because so and so said so as its a bit childish...
Cheers Chris mate...

Solid performance by Mignolet tonight I thought.

Hello again, Spangles. I think you think that he thinks you have him on this one. Unfortunately you having him would only hold merit if the comparison of Michael Owen, Ballon D'or winner, was comparable to Steve Bull scoring 'all those goals' in the third and fourth division. I hope this makes sense, realise you're not the smartest so am willing to explain further if needs be.

Let me know!

with you being so clever I thought you would understand I was using very extreme principles to get my point over to a very young and nieve lad so he might understand better that's all. I was trying to explain in laymans terms the difference in levels and how you cant put a player at the very top level if he hasn't played there as in Suarez case while at Liverpool that's all, thought you would of understood that.

I hope I haven't schooled our young friend off as I like his little bits of input and he is not the only person in here to of been SPANGLED, haha...

anyway onwards and upwards next victim please...

I was unfortunate enough to read some of the other post arguing the toss about being world class before stumbling onto this one. I think you may have just bored the poor fella to death rather than winning the argument.

yes maybe so Ben but it's normaly a sure fire reason he has lost the argument as you say and been Spangled, fair point tho, well done..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8fANDq_qc

Just an example of a world class goal but Michael Owen in the World Cup against Argentina, is this not the biggest stage?

He also scored two Champions League hat tricks, one for Liverpool and one for Man Utd.

I'm seriously bored of your arrogance and lack of knowledge, as for winning the argument you brought a 3rd tier striker into the debate which is idiotic.

My final point is that your tying yourself up in knots, according to your and your words, Gerrard wasn't world class despite winning the European Cup. Now you say Owen can't be world class because he hasn't won the top prizes, which is it? It cannot be both.

As mentioned I'm bored of this, anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see you don't have a clue and are just trying to have a go at everyone and anything related to LFC, now please bore off.

welcome back my new student, am sorry for using one of my old Jedi Mind ticks in turning your own logic back on you, it always works on the weak so you qualified with flying colours haha.
Anyway glad ure back mate...