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Just been thinking about the thread regarding our best player and was wondering when was out last true world class player, not who we liked or thought was good, a player regarded as true world class level like Ronaldo, Messi, Zidane, Figo Rivaldo e.t.c are we having to go back as far as Rush Souness and Dalglish. I also mean while he played for us not if he left us and went on to become arguably world class like maybe an Alonso... Suarez was was class with us even before going to Barca, Gerrard was world class for a few seasons, especially the one we won the CL, Keegan was world class, Torres as well, Dlaglish of course how can Gerrard and Suarez be put on the same level as Dalglish and Keegan when the latter two performed on a higher level a lot more
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Just been thinking about the thread regarding our best player and was wondering when was out last true world class player, not who we liked or thought was good, a player regarded as true world class level like Ronaldo, Messi, Zidane, Figo Rivaldo e.t.c are we having to go back as far as Rush Souness and Dalglish. I also mean while he played for us not if he left us and went on to become arguably world class like maybe an Alonso... Suarez was was class with us even before going to Barca, Gerrard was world class for a few seasons, especially the one we won the CL, Keegan was world class, Torres as well, Dlaglish of course how can Gerrard and Suarez be put on the same level as Dalglish and Keegan when the latter two performed on a higher level a lot more What higher level, they all played in the first division in England and for their country in the world cup, Suarez even reached the semi finals. Do you think Barca will pay 75m for a not world class player. You always get confused (not the first time which says a lot about you) and now its about being world class and winning trophies. For me a world class player is one who gets selected in the FIFA world team of the year. Hope I am clear enough for you
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Just been thinking about the thread regarding our best player and was wondering when was out last true world class player, not who we liked or thought was good, a player regarded as true world class level like Ronaldo, Messi, Zidane, Figo Rivaldo e.t.c are we having to go back as far as Rush Souness and Dalglish. I also mean while he played for us not if he left us and went on to become arguably world class like maybe an Alonso... Suarez was was class with us even before going to Barca, Gerrard was world class for a few seasons, especially the one we won the CL, Keegan was world class, Torres as well, Dlaglish of course how can Gerrard and Suarez be put on the same level as Dalglish and Keegan when the latter two performed on a higher level a lot more What higher level, they all played in the first division in England and for their country in the world cup, Suarez even reached the semi finals. Do you think Barca will pay 75m for a not world class player. You always get confused (not the first time which says a lot about you) and now its about being world class and winning trophies. For me a world class player is one who gets selected in the FIFA world team of the year. Hope I am clear enough for you are you a bit slow mate, is it impossible for you to reply to a post without being personal with " says a lot about you " jibe, I have not been personal with you so have a bit of respect please. Back to the topic, Barca did pay a lot of money yes just Like Madrid did with Gareth Bale, these Clubs didn't buy the finished articles and were buying players before potentially becoming world class. The major trophies go hand in hand with playing and succeeding at the highest level, a player who reaches the top once as in plays a main contributing role in the team winning a major honour like Gerrard in Istanbul, Shearer when Blackburn won the League can not be put in the same bracket as players who demonstrated this on several occasions like Roy Keane, Zidane, Rivaldo midfield wise or Rush, Van Basten or Raul striker wise. When you say Gerrard makes a world 11 which year are we talking about when he was best in the world in his position...
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC Indeed, only I said Suarez without waffle. Totally pointless as there is no other. Next? 
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC excuse me are you retarded, I am asking a serious question because you have not read my post asking you to show more respect and keep to topic so I am assuming you are so I will try and explain the reason I have stated again. Players do not just move for world class fees because they are already world class, Raheem Sterling moved for a world class fee, so did Wayne Rooney at the time both were not finished articles, clubs spend world class fees on potential too, hope that clears things up. Gareth Bale was not world class at Spurs I think he's a fantastic player but a lot of that fee was on the back of his performance against Inter Milan when he roasted the Brazilian full back who was regarded one of the best in the world at the time. As for he's world class just because most on this forum say he is well that's not a reason either, most on here say Gerrard is world class and Dalglish never contributed from our fall from grace so it's flawed try using your own mind instead of allowing others to influence your own mind. You say it's a team effort yes but the best players can play for the best teams unless they don't want to as in Gerrard Le Tissier and Shearer who both sacrificed the chance to become world class by staying loyal to hometown clubs who never provided the platform to win the games biggest honours on a regular basis, it was there own fault, lack of ambition maybe. Hope this clears things up for you so please, do me a favour and read it slowly so you can find it easier to digest, thanks mate...
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC excuse me are you retarded, I am asking a serious question because you have not read my post asking you to show more respect and keep to topic so I am assuming you are so I will try and explain the reason I have stated again. Players do not just move for world class fees because they are already world class, Raheem Sterling moved for a world class fee, so did Wayne Rooney at the time both were not finished articles, clubs spend world class fees on potential too, hope that clears things up. Gareth Bale was not world class at Spurs I think he's a fantastic player but a lot of that fee was on the back of his performance against Inter Milan when he roasted the Brazilian full back who was regarded one of the best in the world at the time. As for he's world class just because most on this forum say he is well that's not a reason either, most on here say Gerrard is world class and Dalglish never contributed from our fall from grace so it's flawed try using your own mind instead of allowing others to influence your own mind. You say it's a team effort yes but the best players can play for the best teams unless they don't want to as in Gerrard Le Tissier and Shearer who both sacrificed the chance to become world class by staying loyal to hometown clubs who never provided the platform to win the games biggest honours on a regular basis, it was there own fault, lack of ambition maybe. Hope this clears things up for you so please, do me a favour and read it slowly so you can find it easier to digest, thanks mate... I really wonder who is retarded. Somebody who doesn't think Suarez was world class when he left us doesn't understand football, end of. By the was Suarez went at much higher fee than Sterling and he was also older, if you know what I mean. By the way, Shearer also was world class.
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On his way?
He's been there. He's still there. He isn't leaving.
but he hasn't done it for Liverpool tho had he, the biggest games he played in for us he flopped in also playing at Okd Teaffird and Goodison park is hardly the pinnacle is it, he hadn't even appeared in the champions league so how was he playing at the world class level for Liverpool... Je5u5 you would try to start a row in an empty house.
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC excuse me are you retarded, I am asking a serious question because you have not read my post asking you to show more respect and keep to topic so I am assuming you are so I will try and explain the reason I have stated again. Players do not just move for world class fees because they are already world class, Raheem Sterling moved for a world class fee, so did Wayne Rooney at the time both were not finished articles, clubs spend world class fees on potential too, hope that clears things up. Gareth Bale was not world class at Spurs I think he's a fantastic player but a lot of that fee was on the back of his performance against Inter Milan when he roasted the Brazilian full back who was regarded one of the best in the world at the time. As for he's world class just because most on this forum say he is well that's not a reason either, most on here say Gerrard is world class and Dalglish never contributed from our fall from grace so it's flawed try using your own mind instead of allowing others to influence your own mind. You say it's a team effort yes but the best players can play for the best teams unless they don't want to as in Gerrard Le Tissier and Shearer who both sacrificed the chance to become world class by staying loyal to hometown clubs who never provided the platform to win the games biggest honours on a regular basis, it was there own fault, lack of ambition maybe. Hope this clears things up for you so please, do me a favour and read it slowly so you can find it easier to digest, thanks mate... I really wonder who is retarded. Somebody who doesn't think Suarez was world class when he left us doesn't understand football, end of. By the was Suarez went at much higher fee than Sterling and he was also older, if you know what I mean. By the way, Shearer also was world class. was Le Tissier world Class?
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A player can be world class and win nothing because he plays in a poor team. If you believe that Suarez became world class the minute he arrived at Barca, you are a fool, he hasn't improved a lot at Barca, he was already world class when he got there, same for Bale, he was world class at Spurs, this is why he was bought at such a world class fee. Being world class is about the qualities of a player personally and winning trophies is a team effort. I know it is hard for you to understand though most here agree that Suarez was world class at LFC excuse me are you retarded, I am asking a serious question because you have not read my post asking you to show more respect and keep to topic so I am assuming you are so I will try and explain the reason I have stated again. Players do not just move for world class fees because they are already world class, Raheem Sterling moved for a world class fee, so did Wayne Rooney at the time both were not finished articles, clubs spend world class fees on potential too, hope that clears things up. Gareth Bale was not world class at Spurs I think he's a fantastic player but a lot of that fee was on the back of his performance against Inter Milan when he roasted the Brazilian full back who was regarded one of the best in the world at the time. As for he's world class just because most on this forum say he is well that's not a reason either, most on here say Gerrard is world class and Dalglish never contributed from our fall from grace so it's flawed try using your own mind instead of allowing others to influence your own mind. You say it's a team effort yes but the best players can play for the best teams unless they don't want to as in Gerrard Le Tissier and Shearer who both sacrificed the chance to become world class by staying loyal to hometown clubs who never provided the platform to win the games biggest honours on a regular basis, it was there own fault, lack of ambition maybe. Hope this clears things up for you so please, do me a favour and read it slowly so you can find it easier to digest, thanks mate... I really wonder who is retarded. Somebody who doesn't think Suarez was world class when he left us doesn't understand football, end of. By the was Suarez went at much higher fee than Sterling and he was also older, if you know what I mean. By the way, Shearer also was world class. was Le Tissier world Class? You remind me of magnolia paint.
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