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SamMaguire #522459 11/02/16 06:24 PM
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Poor again vs hammers. Doesnt deserve a place in squad for next game

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Originally Posted By SamMaguire
Poor again vs hammers. Doesnt deserve a place in squad for next game


Why does Jordan Ibe, 20, get criticed for not having the best game yet Brad Smith, 21, who was poor defensively agaisnt West Ham, Kevin Stewart, 22, who is not good enough, and Teixiera, 23, who is also clearly not good enough never get criticised.

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Maybe because Ibe does it more often as he's picked more than the rest.


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Jordan Ibe should be so much better than he is doing right now.
He is big, strong, pacey, tricky and has a hell of a shot on him.

He just can't string them all together. We all thought he'd be better than sterling.

He is the benteke of the wing. All the attributes and no end product.

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I like Ibe, his end product needs to improve but he always looks dangerous. Whenever he has put in a really good performance, he's on the bench next game. I think Klopp likes to use his pace later on in game, but he isn't going to fulfil his potential unless he gets a run of games in the team. I think people are being overly critical on here and I can remember it was exactly the same with Sterling at the start of the season we finished second. Everyone was saying the same things, poor end product, doesn't score goals, but he got a long run in the team and ended that season looking a world class player. Granted Ibe doesn't have the benefit of playing with Suarez but I believe the same improvement will be seen if he plays. It's not like we have quality players keeping him out, not sure whay Lallana and Milner are picked ahead of him, their end product is even worse and they're supposed to be at the peak of their careers.

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One run and shot per game is not good enough. The reason he gets stick.from me is hes supposed to be an established first teamer. If those others named above play better they should be ahead of him if hes better then vice versa. For me hes done sh1t for months and id rather have smith coming on for pace and end product

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Originally Posted By SamMaguire
One run and shot per game is not good enough. The reason he gets stick.from me is hes supposed to be an established first teamer. If those others named above play better they should be ahead of him if hes better then vice versa. For me hes done sh1t for months and id rather have smith coming on for pace and end product

Bit harsh on a 20 year old there Sam, I feel. Most at that age don't have consistency or astonishing end product against seasoned defenders, with the right coaching and some good players along side him, he could come good. After all who else in the side is playing any better than Ibe at the moment?

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Originally Posted By SamMaguire
One run and shot per game is not good enough. The reason he gets stick.from me is hes supposed to be an established first teamer. If those others named above play better they should be ahead of him if hes better then vice versa. For me hes done sh1t for months and id rather have smith coming on for pace and end product


I agree, if they play better than him they should be in the team, but they are not. Klopp is meant to have a reputation for putting his trust in young players but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. He keeps faith with the underperforming established players even if the younger players impress in the cup games. Ibe, Smith and Texeira to name just 3. Why not play them in the league and drop underperforming players like Lallana, Milner and Moreno? Same could be said for the midfield players, Can has been terrible bar one or two games, same for Lucas, why not give Brannagan or Phillips a chance? Play them now seen as we have no chance of making top 4, get them ready and see who is good enough to be in the team next season.

We have a bunch of talented young players as we've seen, we should be building for next few seasons and get them in the team now. I fear most of them will be gone in the next couple of years seen as they aren't playing and we will have let another talented group of players go to waste. Put faith in talented young players and we can reap the rewards next 2 or 3 years by adding top quality players to them.

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Originally Posted By welshred11

Klopp is meant to have a reputation for putting his trust in young players but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. He keeps faith with the underperforming established players even if the younger players impress in the cup games. Ibe, Smith and Texeira to name just 3. Why not play them in the league and drop underperforming players like Lallana, Milner and Moreno? Same could be said for the midfield players, Can has been terrible bar one or two games, same for Lucas, why not give Brannagan or Phillips a chance? Play them now seen as we have no chance of making top 4, get them ready and see who is good enough to be in the team next season.


Well said, completely agree.

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Originally Posted By SamMaguire
One run and shot per game is not good enough. The reason he gets stick.from me is hes supposed to be an established first teamer. If those others named above play better they should be ahead of him if hes better then vice versa. For me hes done sh1t for months and id rather have smith coming on for pace and end product


I agree, if they play better than him they should be in the team, but they are not. Klopp is meant to have a reputation for putting his trust in young players but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. He keeps faith with the underperforming established players even if the younger players impress in the cup games. Ibe, Smith and Texeira to name just 3. Why not play them in the league and drop underperforming players like Lallana, Milner and Moreno? Same could be said for the midfield players, Can has been terrible bar one or two games, same for Lucas, why not give Brannagan or Phillips a chance? Play them now seen as we have no chance of making top 4, get them ready and see who is good enough to be in the team next season.

We have a bunch of talented young players as we've seen, we should be building for next few seasons and get them in the team now. I fear most of them will be gone in the next couple of years seen as they aren't playing and we will have let another talented group of players go to waste. Put faith in talented young players and we can reap the rewards next 2 or 3 years by adding top quality players to them.

Or those turds in boston will sell them

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