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My point exactly ..

We have enuff cm players to cover for Lucas play cb ..

We don't have one CB that is a leader , can organise the defence or read the game ..

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Lucas is far from a leader! Once Skrtel gets back he'll be back in there with one of the other CB's and rightly so.

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Wilks, have you seen our so called centre backs of late!

That logic surely only holds up everything being equal which it clearly is not. We must have one of the bottom 3 defensive records in the league. If Lucas being back there can holler and bully that rabble into a unit then maybe it is a decent option until players are able to be purchased?

I don't know, but we can all see how bad it is back there and up to now the idiots who call themselves defenders seem to have been incapable of improving much to the rage of the manager.

I can see Klopp is starting to get really pi_ssed and frustrated, his interviews are starting to show it. Really hope Sturridge can relieve some pressure on the whole team going forward it may inspire some confidence and lift all boats.

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Last night we had 2 fatal errors from players in the defence line costing us 2 goals.

1. Smith ball watching and coming into cb position instead of staying back and mark his player. 1-0 West Ham.

2. Lucas making an unnecessary challenge in the 120:th minute. Set piece and we all know what happens to us at defensive set pieces! 2-1 West Ham.

Of course Big Ben also cost us the game with his 4 missed sitters (or how many was it?).

We should really have won that game within 90 minutes.

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Originally Posted By Top4
Wilks, have you seen our so called centre backs of late!

That logic surely only holds up everything being equal which it clearly is not. We must have one of the bottom 3 defensive records in the league. If Lucas being back there can holler and bully that rabble into a unit then maybe it is a decent option until players are able to be purchased?

I don't know, but we can all see how bad it is back there and up to now the idiots who call themselves defenders seem to have been incapable of improving much to the rage of the manager.

I can see Klopp is starting to get really pi_ssed and frustrated, his interviews are starting to show it. Really hope Sturridge can relieve some pressure on the whole team going forward it may inspire some confidence and lift all boats.


But they're still defenders. We slated Rodgers for not playing players in their proper position so why now is it OK for Klopp to do it? Yes do it if there's no other option but apart from that not for me.

For me, the main problem has been the lack of a settled back four plus whoever is back there knows they have Migs behind them and that would make the best defenders in the world nervous. I personally though that Skrtel and Sakho were starting to look alright together but then injuries come along and the pairing is split.

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Speaking of CB injuries, how's lovren doing after the weekend? Will he be out long?

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i hope he does


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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
We moan about putting square pegs in round holes then want it doing?? I didn't see the game last night so can't comment on how good he was but a midfielder is best played in midfield and a CB at CB. What next? Caulker as a striker? grin


Phil Thompson did the same for us. Sometimes it just works.

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Don't think Sakho has looked as good since returning from injury. He always looked awkward although I thought he was a decent defender, but now he seems rusty or Liverpool CB screw up prone as well.

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Lucas' main strength is his positional sense and anticipation. That's why he's tackling rate is so high cos he has this ability to anticipate what the opposition is going to do, and he's there at the right time.

Playing as a CB brings out these qualities.

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