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Originally Posted By Spangles
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Interesting read from This Is Anfield:

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/02/liv...ted-view-seats/

and

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/02/photos-the-view-from-the-upper-tier-of-anfields-new-main-stand/


400-500 seats in the new tier will have limited view over the pitch.

Surprisingly it seems that these are the seats the club have priced at £ 9 for a few category C games...
i have said before its s ridiculous looking stand, hope the people who wanted to stay at Anfield are happy with there decision only saving grace is we could put the away fans and tourists up there like Barca and Newcastle do I suppose...


The price for those seats will be much lower if they are to be sold at all.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
No the price rises are not going in the current balance sheet which is based on cumulative profits to date but the aim is to make a capital profit that profit based on future value of revenue earnings so FSG,s aim is to put the least amount of investment in and get the best selling price out. Ticket price increases are there to pay for the new tier on the main stand which reduces their net investment prior to the sale which I expect is in a year or two. Effectively LFC is a remote financial investment to them and the fans are paying for it. This is good business sense of course but it's at the long term expense of the club and it's fans. What state will the club be in when they leave ? A mid table club with a poor ground and the highest ticket prices outside London and a declining fan base


And you think somebody is going to pay a lot for that? Why would anybody do that?

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
No the price rises are not going in the current balance sheet which is based on cumulative profits to date but the aim is to make a capital profit that profit based on future value of revenue earnings so FSG,s aim is to put the least amount of investment in and get the best selling price out. Ticket price increases are there to pay for the new tier on the main stand which reduces their net investment prior to the sale which I expect is in a year or two. Effectively LFC is a remote financial investment to them and the fans are paying for it. This is good business sense of course but it's at the long term expense of the club and it's fans. What state will the club be in when they leave ? A mid table club with a poor ground and the highest ticket prices outside London and a declining fan base


And you think somebody is going to pay a lot for that? Why would anybody do that?


Liverpool is still a famous name short term limited people would pay it medium to long term no one would. We are a long wat from title / champions league status so very much we are playing on old glories


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
No the price rises are not going in the current balance sheet which is based on cumulative profits to date but the aim is to make a capital profit that profit based on future value of revenue earnings so FSG,s aim is to put the least amount of investment in and get the best selling price out. Ticket price increases are there to pay for the new tier on the main stand which reduces their net investment prior to the sale which I expect is in a year or two. Effectively LFC is a remote financial investment to them and the fans are paying for it. This is good business sense of course but it's at the long term expense of the club and it's fans. What state will the club be in when they leave ? A mid table club with a poor ground and the highest ticket prices outside London and a declining fan base


And you think somebody is going to pay a lot for that? Why would anybody do that?


Liverpool is still a famous name short term limited people would pay it medium to long term no one would. We are a long wat from title / champions league status so very much we are playing on old glories


The only appealing thing in terms of value with LFC is the global fan base which is has been built over past glory. That gone, it will end up being what you have described above and now that FFF has been reviewed, there is little chance that FSG will make any money on their investment. What they don't seem to understand is that there will not be any money to be made the longer it takes. Their last chance now is Klopp doing some magic but you rarely have a team from a poor area doing very well (consistently) these days.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
No the price rises are not going in the current balance sheet which is based on cumulative profits to date but the aim is to make a capital profit that profit based on future value of revenue earnings so FSG,s aim is to put the least amount of investment in and get the best selling price out. Ticket price increases are there to pay for the new tier on the main stand which reduces their net investment prior to the sale which I expect is in a year or two. Effectively LFC is a remote financial investment to them and the fans are paying for it. This is good business sense of course but it's at the long term expense of the club and it's fans. What state will the club be in when they leave ? A mid table club with a poor ground and the highest ticket prices outside London and a declining fan base


And you think somebody is going to pay a lot for that? Why would anybody do that?


Liverpool is still a famous name short term limited people would pay it medium to long term no one would. We are a long wat from title / champions league status so very much we are playing on old glories


The only appealing thing in terms of value with LFC is the global fan base which is has been built over past glory. That gone, it will end up being what you have described above and now that FFF has been reviewed, there is little chance that FSG will make any money on their investment. What they don't seem to understand is that there will not be any money to be made the longer it takes. Their last chance now is Klopp doing some magic but you rarely have a team from a poor area doing very well (consistently) these days.
like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...

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Originally Posted By Spangles
like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


Again you are getting confused. A glory hunter is one who will support the best performing team of the moment and change for a better team when that happens unless you have a different definition. It's true that most global fans will choose the winning team when they start to watch and understand the game, but, they rarely change after that, just like a local fan.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


Again you are getting confused. A glory hunter is one who will support the best performing team of the moment and change for a better team when that happens unless you have a different definition. It's true that most global fans will choose the winning team when they start to watch and understand the game, but, they rarely change after that, just like a local fan.
a glory hunter chooses a team because they are successful or famous please don't compare a local fan to that as it's very insulting we are not lucky enough to get to pick a team. The local fan is the bread and butter while the emergence of the Out of Town fan has ruined football at lower and grass roots level...

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Originally Posted By Spangles
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Originally Posted By Spangles
like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


Again you are getting confused. A glory hunter is one who will support the best performing team of the moment and change for a better team when that happens unless you have a different definition. It's true that most global fans will choose the winning team when they start to watch and understand the game, but, they rarely change after that, just like a local fan.
a glory hunter chooses a team because they are successful or famous please don't compare a local fan to that as it's very insulting we are not lucky enough to get to pick a team. The local fan is the bread and butter while the emergence of the Out of Town fan has ruined football at lower and grass roots level...


You could have chose between Liverpool, Everton and Tranmere.

Yet you chose the team that was winning every season, glory-hunter indeed.

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Spangles
like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


Again you are getting confused. A glory hunter is one who will support the best performing team of the moment and change for a better team when that happens unless you have a different definition. It's true that most global fans will choose the winning team when they start to watch and understand the game, but, they rarely change after that, just like a local fan.
a glory hunter chooses a team because they are successful or famous please don't compare a local fan to that as it's very insulting we are not lucky enough to get to pick a team. The local fan is the bread and butter while the emergence of the Out of Town fan has ruined football at lower and grass roots level...


Are you saying there is only one team in your locality? By the way, whether you are local or not, LFC is not your property and you do not have any more rights on it. There is hardly any players from the town anyway and the owners are Americans. I hope not all local fans are narrow minded as you and also note that the world has gone global since you could grasp anything.

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I have maybe 20 teams within an hours drive from my home yet I chose Liverpool in the days when shankly was just getting the team going pre 65 FA cup win. What does that make me ? From memory it was the kit and the sight of the kop on the TV I like the badge too. To a child that was glory and so here I am glory hunter at your service :-)


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