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I expected Klopp to get more out of the squad he's inherited than he has so far You are kidding me?
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. I thought that Klopp said that it's not about possession football.so why would he set up a team to play that way?and since when was stating facts in a thread make it stupid? stating facts is saying he has no effect on the team? nit wit no kp though we're not set up to have a lot of the ball, despite our fairly high average possession stat, of 54.6%, making us 19th on most possession in all european leagues so far this season.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. What you are saying explains why we didn't score, it doesn't explain why we lost. Not scoring doesn't mean concede goals. Why did we go all guns blazing against the league leaders who have forwards who are on fire and a striker who loves space? Klopp got it wrong for me.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. What you are saying explains why we didn't score, it doesn't explain why we lost. Not scoring doesn't mean concede goals. Why did we go all guns blazing against the league leaders who have forwards who are on fire and a striker who loves space? Klopp got it wrong for me. sorry to be captain obviously but not scoring and losing almost go hand in hand, if you don't score you are likely to lose, 0-0s are a 1/10 thing if that generally in the premier league. I did say we should have sat deeper in my suggestion of allen lucas milner as our central midfield, but how long can you be disciplined and sit back to stop a counter attack threat for? it's better to try and score first, even if that provides a more open match. by trying to play on the front foot, leicester had 36.1% possession, only had a pass completion of 63.7% to our 77.4%, they just took their chances, had 6 shots on target to our 1, though we had more total shots 14 to their 13. They counter attacked very well as they have been doing all season, this was one of their most impressive displays of it. They slowed the momentum in our attacks when tracking back, and by not letting our front 3 have time on the ball by putting pressure on the ball, to nullify our counter attacking threat. Made it hard to get on the ball in good areas, which is easier to do with firmino than it is with benteke.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. Bad decision making by the players, yes. But defensively we are poor. Brendan didn't prioritise the defense and we got caught out too often. Klopp hasn't improved this.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. Bad decision making by the players, yes. But defensively we are poor. Brendan didn't prioritise the defense and we got caught out too often. Klopp hasn't improved this. Because he's left with the cack Brendan left.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. Bad decision making by the players, yes. But defensively we are poor. Brendan didn't prioritise the defense and we got caught out too often. Klopp hasn't improved this. Because he's left with the cack Brendan left. I disagree but I'll be waiting until next season to make any proper judgement on Klopp.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. What you are saying explains why we didn't score, it doesn't explain why we lost. Not scoring doesn't mean concede goals. Why did we go all guns blazing against the league leaders who have forwards who are on fire and a striker who loves space? Klopp got it wrong for me. Basically their tactics were better sorry to be captain obviously but not scoring and losing almost go hand in hand, if you don't score you are likely to lose, 0-0s are a 1/10 thing if that generally in the premier league. I did say we should have sat deeper in my suggestion of allen lucas milner as our central midfield, but how long can you be disciplined and sit back to stop a counter attack threat for? it's better to try and score first, even if that provides a more open match. by trying to play on the front foot, leicester had 36.1% possession, only had a pass completion of 63.7% to our 77.4%, they just took their chances, had 6 shots on target to our 1, though we had more total shots 14 to their 13. They counter attacked very well as they have been doing all season, this was one of their most impressive displays of it. They slowed the momentum in our attacks when tracking back, and by not letting our front 3 have time on the ball by putting pressure on the ball, to nullify our counter attacking threat. Made it hard to get on the ball in good areas, which is easier to do with firmino than it is with benteke.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. What you are saying explains why we didn't score, it doesn't explain why we lost. Not scoring doesn't mean concede goals. Why did we go all guns blazing against the league leaders who have forwards who are on fire and a striker who loves space? Klopp got it wrong for me. Basically their tactics were better sorry to be captain obviously but not scoring and losing almost go hand in hand, if you don't score you are likely to lose, 0-0s are a 1/10 thing if that generally in the premier league. I did say we should have sat deeper in my suggestion of allen lucas milner as our central midfield, but how long can you be disciplined and sit back to stop a counter attack threat for? it's better to try and score first, even if that provides a more open match. by trying to play on the front foot, leicester had 36.1% possession, only had a pass completion of 63.7% to our 77.4%, they just took their chances, had 6 shots on target to our 1, though we had more total shots 14 to their 13. They counter attacked very well as they have been doing all season, this was one of their most impressive displays of it. They slowed the momentum in our attacks when tracking back, and by not letting our front 3 have time on the ball by putting pressure on the ball, to nullify our counter attacking threat. Made it hard to get on the ball in good areas, which is easier to do with firmino than it is with benteke. That's your opinion. I don't think klopp could have known leicester would restrict us so well. I think he did the right thing, on a night where Leicester were keen to win infront of their home fans, and fighting for the title, go to try and win the game against a team who are unbeaten in 7 at home, and haven't conceded a goal in 350 minutes would have been a great double over them.
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Stupid thread. We were set up to dominate possession - we had the ball in good positions in the box and out wide for much of the game - but the final touch or final ball was braindead. I'm sure Klopp will take his lumps but that shooting and passing is on the players. Bad decision making by the players, yes. But defensively we are poor. Brendan didn't prioritise the defense and we got caught out too often. Klopp hasn't improved this. Because he's left with the cack Brendan left. I disagree but I'll be waiting until next season to make any proper judgement on Klopp. No I think you've already made your mind up.
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