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Still cant understand how people are prioritising Premier League games over cup games, maybe the owners do yes because they actualy make money from the Club being in the top four but us fans no way, we get nothing fanancialy out of it other than price hikes.
find it hard to believe there are some fans out there who think Liverpool Football Club will ever win a League again never mind in the next 10 or 15 years. This is why League Cup and the game against West Ham in the F.A.Cup are this clubs only realistic chance of silverware this season and not to mention in the next 10 years at least and I just don't understand how people still talk about Premier League games when it is a dead competition for Clubs like ours.

If Everton, Newcastle, Villa, Stoke City or West Ham were to win either of these Cups they would be chuffed to bits and celebrate it yet our fans seem to dismiss it and talk about top four which ultimately means appearing in the group stages of the Champions league then being bounced out bit like Celtic and Olympiakos do every year. My only conclusion is our fans seem to be snobs and somehow think we are too good to win these cups, baffles me really becauae 1 trophy in 10 years next year hardly backs this way of thinking up.

Three years ago I would have disagreed with you but now my spirit is broken yes forget champions league Liverpool's best hope now are the domestic cups and occasionally sneaking into the champions league although even that is looking unlikely these days

I disagree. Teams are judged on how well they do in the league. Arsenal went along time without winning anything but they're were still a top side.

League cups and FA cups boost a solid league campaign but for me the league is the foundation.

Also, Champions League football attracts better players and is also nice to be in.

you can predict future for next 50 years who gives a flying toss really.

my point exactly KP... it is really unpredictable and open still and just settling for micky mouse cups doesnt make sense to me whether fans are snobs or else.and i would take a better league position (topv4) anyday over these cups.

I would take the Europa league over anything else at this point.

i get ur drift but i just dont want us to give up on CL spot either. why cant klopp push for all these while we can. this season is a write off anyways.

Europa league comes with a CL spot. . .

yeap but its not about playing in CL per se.we could qualify for CL and perhaps dont even go past group stages.

being in top 4 i think sends a strong message in terms of transfers too. now we cant even battle with hammers,toffees and spuds.... such is the [oops] we are in

Exactly.
I have been saying this for over a month now. Realistically top 4 went when we got beat by Barcodes, Watford and West Ham. When was the last time we won a league game comfortably, by more than a goal?

Too many first choice players out to challenge for everything. Especially 4th place. Nobody has conquered Thursday night / Sunday football yet.

The Norwich game was a nothing game at the start. It didn't matter win lose or draw realistically because we are not going to make top 4. But the celebrations at the end tell you otherwise. There is some sort of belief that Klopp has that makes me think he thinks 4th is still on. If it is not that then at least winning ANY game is important.

But yes, realistically with the players coming back from injury a cup or even two is definitely on.

The league is a dead competition for Liverpool Football Club this is the harsh reality fans need to face, an average season for us now is to finish between 7th and 9th and a good season is between 5th and 7th this is all we are now unfortunately.
People are correct about the league being topsy turvey this season and this happens once every 4 or 5 seasons so when it does a Spurs, Liverpool or Everton might get in but it's just for one season because normal service soon resumes the season after with the big four, playing one season in the champions league is no good whatsoever because top players want to play for clubs established in it each season, none will sign for Leicester if the make it this season will they and this is my point.

Our only light or chance of success is winning the domestic cups at least it gives fans some happiness and glory...somethin to celebrate is better than nothing and we might enjoy a day out at Wembley too...