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Torres65 #518481 19/01/16 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Torres65

It's 11v11, it's not normal to not face any less than 1 shot on target per match, so yes fundamentally wrong if your midfield have to protect your defence all match to stop them conceding. I'll take that, strange view to have. good conversation


There were plenty of times under Rafa when we were rock solid where the opponents created next to nothing and Reina had nothing to do. I recall a couple of games against Middlesbrough and Newcastle in particular.

If we are winning games and our opponents aren't creating chances or scoring that has to be a good thing, it cannot mean something is wrong.

Chris2402 #518494 19/01/16 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Torres65

It's 11v11, it's not normal to not face any less than 1 shot on target per match, so yes fundamentally wrong if your midfield have to protect your defence all match to stop them conceding. I'll take that, strange view to have. good conversation


There were plenty of times under Rafa when we were rock solid where the opponents created next to nothing and Reina had nothing to do. I recall a couple of games against Middlesbrough and Newcastle in particular.

If we are winning games and our opponents aren't creating chances or scoring that has to be a good thing, it cannot mean something is wrong.


If you say so chris, but I think it's similar to having all the possession like we had in 13/14 still conceded no end of goals. And yes you are right you can win games with your goalkeeper having nothing to do, just wonder how many times in a season you can pull that off. Yeah our midfield/attack was great under Rafa so I'm not surprised.

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Glad for the win today but still mug should have saved at least 1 if not 2 of their goals the back heel was right down the middle next to his foot why was he diving? Stick a leg out save a goal or dive over it? Also Naismith goal should have been saved good accuracy but bad keeping. I find myself clapping or cheering if he catches a ball 🙈🙈🙈

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This is taken from football 365

Simon Mignolet, who had conceded six goals from the last eight shots on target he faced after Wes Hoolahan’s penalty made it 3-1 to Norwich? The keeper has now conceded 32 goals in the Premier League, making only 43 saves. Of all keepers to have made more than eight appearances this season, he ranks 21st out of 22 for shots saved per game. A new five-year contract for you. Keep up the good work.

Rory #519024 23/01/16 05:08 PM
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I don't think Klopp is stupid, I think he knows he needs a new number 1, I just hope FSG back him and give him the money to get the reinforcements he needs. I think as it stands at the moment even jack Butland is out of our reach

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
This is taken from football 365

Simon Mignolet, who had conceded six goals from the last eight shots on target he faced after Wes Hoolahan’s penalty made it 3-1 to Norwich? The keeper has now conceded 32 goals in the Premier League, making only 43 saves. Of all keepers to have made more than eight appearances this season, he ranks 21st out of 22 for shots saved per game. A new five-year contract for you. Keep up the good work.


It's not even like the shooting has been immense against us, and we've been the victim of goals of the season, even if norwich's late equalizer was a cracker, caused by us unable to head clear. There is a massive lack of confidence and trust between centre backs and goalkeeper. As Chris, has said, no commanding presence at the back doesn't help either, the way ramsey and naismith have been able to creep behind our defence for cheap, avoidable (albeit good finishes of) goals has annoyed me. Do our defenders need to be more robust, and proactive when teams look like they are getting into threatening areas, instead of just holding their position and standing side on? We could be more hands on, and attacking in our defending like Leicester and Huth, but I worry about us giving away set pieces in closing people down when not everyone is back and there is space out wide, and runners.

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Rory #519047 23/01/16 06:59 PM
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He doesn't even look like a good shot stopper anymore. He's just gash.

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