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Sorry Darcus, do tell us about your team building achievements in football. You come from this position trying to sound all high and mighty but you need to deal with the fact that people don't have to agree with you.
Personally I thought Firmino played very well against United and Arsenal...finally starting to hit some form. He was our best player. Çan was poor as was Hendo imo.
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Sorry Darcus, do tell us about your team building achievements in football. You come from this position trying to sound all high and mighty but you need to deal with the fact that people don't have to agree with you.
Personally I thought Firmino played very well against United and Arsenal...finally starting to hit some form. He was our best player. Çan was poor as was Hendo imo. You're confusing me with someone else. I never said I had team building achievements. And if Firmino was our best player, we're definitely getting relegated!
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Sorry Darcus, do tell us about your team building achievements in football. You come from this position trying to sound all high and mighty but you need to deal with the fact that people don't have to agree with you.
Personally I thought Firmino played very well against United and Arsenal...finally starting to hit some form. He was our best player. Çan was poor as was Hendo imo. You're confusing me with someone else. I never said I had team building achievements. And if Firmino was our best player, we're definitely getting relegated! If you don't think Firmino and Sakho were our best players against man united, then god knows what you think about the rest of the team..I can see why you think we'd get relegated... even though we clearly won't 
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Sorry Darcus, do tell us about your team building achievements in football. You come from this position trying to sound all high and mighty but you need to deal with the fact that people don't have to agree with you.
Personally I thought Firmino played very well against United and Arsenal...finally starting to hit some form. He was our best player. Çan was poor as was Hendo imo. You're confusing me with someone else. I never said I had team building achievements. And if Firmino was our best player, we're definitely getting relegated! If you don't think Firmino and Sakho were our best players against man united, then god knows what you think about the rest of the team..I can see why you think we'd get relegated... even though we clearly won't ?? Did I mention Sakho ?? For what it's worth, he was by far our best player and is the main reason why Utd only had 1 shot on goal. Apart from the give the ball away, tell me what Firmino did exactly, for you to rate him so highly?
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I'll give you an answer that will help you think for yourself better when judging players performances, because whatever I say about what he did, won't be agreed with, or mocked, however you want to reply.
He did as well as pretty much any PL player could have done, with lallana, milner either side of him, hendo, can playing poorly, and man utd getting midfielders back to press him when they were out of possession, costing them more out wide when firmino could get it there. Liverpool couldn't play out from the back, let alone retain possession well in the middle of the field, due to Utd pressing in their own half, and their defence trying to play a high line as possible, firmino made the most of most of our counter attacking opportunities in his running and passing. Okay he couldn't hold up the ball at times, but he always goes to win it back, he had success in doing so, if a more natural forward did that people would be praising his effort immensely. He has the ability to back up his workrate too, that's the great thing.
I don't know if you are worried about him being our 'main' attacker Darcus, but he certainly should be One of them.
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For starters he set up a clear goal scoring opportunity only for Hendo to pass it to De Gea.
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There's no doubt in my mind that Firmino was one of our best players in the last two games.
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I have noticed this several times this season. When Klopp sends Benteke on as a sub, there is noticeable lack of eye contact from Benteke despite Klopp giving him instructions. The body language spoke of Benteke not liking Klopp very much, or rather, at all.
As other posters have pointed out, it's high time Klopp makes use of Benteke as a goal threat. He is after all a goal scorer if given the right service. Are they supposed to stare lovingly into each others eyes and have a hug? I don't think there's anything to this at all. He looks short on confidence and probably wants to be playing and that's all. I can't explain it but there's certainly a lot of friction between them based on benteke's body language.
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He probably just wants to play?
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I don't get all the Benteke hatred. We've already seen quite a variety of goals from him... volleys, pivot shots, headers... it's not like he has no ability. He scored 20+ a season in a poor Aston Villa side because he had REAL WINGERS. Everyone goes on about his movement... he'll never be an Aguero type player... he needs good crosses whipped in to the box to attack. I haven't seen a quality whipped ball in by any of our players in months. We always try to play through the defence with flicks that hardly ever work - or cut it back to people who can't shoot. When Benteke does get a cross it's one of those slow lob jobs that allow defenders to set up. If we had one midfielder with a quarter of Gerrard's talent for putting a good ball in Benteke would score. I agree. It's a service thing for me or lack of. The one thing I would question is why we bought that kind of player when wen didn't play that way under Rodgers and then he got rid of our wingers? He could do it for Klopp if Klopp buys the right players and plays how his old Dortmund team did. They used pace on the wings and got balls into Lewandowski with one behind him too.
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