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If that's your honest opinion, that's fair enough, I just see more reason to back him, than want rid.

Even Arsenal? It takes the whole team to perform well to develop what people would consider world class players, sterling for example. I don't know what you're looking for, whenever we get in the final third with him he looks dangerous. Yes maybe that is one of the things (minor) perhaps you'd find more in a striker than a attacking midfielder, the strength on the ball, as Costa has, being the furthest forward attacker that would help. Even though his off the ball strength seems to contradict that, he can certainly barge someone off the ball. I don't want to see him as the furthest forward attacker for seasons to come, though I'm not completely against the idea due to his great movement and ability to link up the play, I rather see him on the right attacking of a 4231, or behind a great striker, so he could focus more on pressing, yet still being able to score goals.

I know it seems im coming across hard on him but i just wish he would show a bit more. Run after the ball chase it down more. He isnt a forward player and his decision making is poor at times.
As you said he has to play on the right and that is probably the best position for him. But currently thats where lallana plays and i cannot see klopp dropping lallana let alone sell him. We have far too many central players and width. Team is in desperate need for some wingers as well.
The goal Firmino scored against arsenal was fantastic but he needs to do it more consistently.

Why are you mentioning Costa in the same breath as Aguero?

Aguero is on another level to any other striker in this division when he's fully fit, he wins games on his own and his all action style of play is similar to that of Suarez. We saw how much of a difference he made in the 13/14 season!

If we'd had Aguero against Man Utd he'd had scored two or three and we'd probably challenging for the league title with him in our team. He's a world class striker and absolutely miles better than Firmino as it stands today!

Because they are both examples of great lonestrikers, or central strikers....

funny then that firmino picked up a higher rating than augero against liverpool if he's miles better than him
.http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/959630/Live/England-Premier-League-2015-2016-Manchester-City-Liverpool

I love how you think augero is a god, could of scored 2 or 3 against man utd, if in firmino's position my 4rse. Please come back to me when you realize humans can only do so much in different situations, and different matches, for example augero could only score 1 long range goal against us.

I'm not denying augero is a great striker, but he also has a great team around him. Firmino can be world class, he currently has 3 goals and 2 assists in 7 goals for liverpool as the central striker, average rating of 7.31 there, not even his best position. Klopp even says firmino doesn't realize how much talent he has, klopps wrong? no.

Firmino has never shown anything to suggest he can be world class. You're living in dreamland. The way you go on about him, i think you're mixing him up with luis suarez......he's more like luis alberto!

I'm obviously not the only one, klopp too. Hahaha, darcus, can you honestly say suarez was going to be world class even after his first season? If you could, you'd be lieing, no one talked about him like that. Though, I think Suarez will always be better than firmino, suarez's eye for goal, I think he'd even be proud of that strike against arsenal, oh and that one where he smashed the bar against sunderland.

Aguero was playing in his first match back after couple of months out injured against us and he scored out of nothing with Man City on the back foot.

Whilst Firmino was good in that game he still scored one goal, the same as Aguero, he also missed two guilt edged 1 on 1's with Joe Hart.

And if we're judging players based on just that game I presume it makes Lallana better than De Bruyne? Can better than Yaya Toure?

man city on the backfoot? couldn't tell, considering they won the ball so high up the field to give him the chance to run at our backline. sturridge came back from injury scored a brace vs villa under BR, sturrige and firmino's talent levels are not that far apart, klopp knows that.

firmino knows he should have put them away, but the cleverness in his runs, and incisive passing with his team mates got him there. hart is a top class keeper, he even made a 1v1 save against benteke that match, even if it was harder in the respect he had to travel with the ball before he could pull the trigger.

ofc not chris, but to put augero on a pedestal, as chelsea were put on a pedestal after their title win last year is not the way to evaluate. I know you say that if we had augero we'd be winning the league, but I beg to differ, if we had sturridge fit we wouldn't be winning the league, we'd probably be finishing 3rd at most.

I'm fed up of having to justify every one of firmino's performances, he's the reason we have all bothered turn on our tv's the past 2 matches, otherwise liverpool could of easily provided boring matches, and worse lost both matches in trying to grind them out against better attacking teams than leicester and sunderland.

He was much better at Hoffenhiem but he has not fully adapted yet. He can still get better.

Much, better

as if he's not been fantastic for us already, could not have done anymore in this present team