KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Joe Allen: No new Liverpool contract (yet) - YOUR THOUGHTS?

ye but that miss against everton at goodison still haunts me today

As does it I, the sitter would have made it 3-1 to liverpool, could of even given it to suarez, the match ended 3-3, with liverpool equalizing from 3-2 behind with sturridge in injury time. Ah well, not just down to Allen that we didn't win it (the season). Let's not dwell on it though, we have to look forward, Allen obviously wants to improve all aspects of his game, and he's going the right way about it by giving his all, they all are I think. Even when some of them aren't being played in their best position for the sake of the team and the result, eg coutinho on the left of attack/ attack mid. But if it works well enough, which it did at Man city, and up until the point he got injured against a more reluctant to commit men forward stoke then that's all that matters. Same as Hazard on the left of attack mid for chelsea, doesn't matter if he not appearing his usual self as long as he is trying to do his best in that position and the team win.

I've never been a fan, but he's been a LOT better under Klopp. More than happy to keep him.

I was at that game and remember Suarez just staring at Allen when he missed that chance. Great game though.

As Darcus says I've never been a fan but if he keeps playing like he did against Stoke he'll change my, and a lot of others opinions of him.

He looked a much better player vs stoke and i would consider keeping him if he played like that. BUT, he needs to consistently play like that, not once every 10 games.

Even at that hes weak on the ball and has no real pace. I dont want to sound as if im been over critical of him but when you come up against teams with better quality he would easily get bossed around. Not only him but few of our other midfielders not just him. I really hope he proves me wrong and it works out for him, because he comes across as someone who loves the game and wants to be there at liverpool.

Call me a cynic but it's amazing how players appear to improve when contracts are coming up.

Allen has done nothing in 3 years and has found a little improvement in the last 3 weeks, presuming he is on significant money I'd rather see his contract wound down if we don't get any bids in the mean time.

He would need to be at least as good as he is now in every game going forward to be considered a squad player for me and his new salary offer considerably less.

Exactly... but we need to get rid. And the same must be said of Lucas. Flog the pair at public auction if necessary, a combined profit of 50p will be worth it in the long term. Once they are not playing for us, someone better will be. What could we possibly lose? Pace, power, aggressive tackling, dynamism, entertainment value or above all, GOALS? Between them the duo have managed 3 in almost 300 EPL appearances for our club

He will be in demand by the smaller clubs maybe Palace or Norwich. I think we can sell him for around 7m as the market is inflated which should of been his value when we signed him. We need more quality so he needs to go.

Agree with all the points about getting our central midfielders who can score goals, and to score goals/get assists, but it massively helps if you have strikers, an attack which can help them do that. Our attack was so good 2 seasons ago, even flanagan could get in on the act, it was total football, from rodgers.

This I can't understand (in bold), Chris and other fans have said they have more time for players when they have sensational workrate (even though I would say if the whole team is playing well it's easier to do that, especially with such a high press and with it being a team game) so it really displeases me, great teams aren't formed overnight, they progress into great teams, as man city have, taking 2 titles in the last 4 seasons. So it's a bit unlikely that allen's replacement will be able to do all what he can do and more from the moment of their arrival, although it could give the squad a lift. I know I'm repetitive, and I like this quote, but we should buy when we are strong, on the up. The team's workrate is on the up, the attack is like a yo yo (it seems if we don't have a good attacking display we don't have a good defensive display in turn), because we haven't a set way of going about it that would work every match, as we have to adjust and use different systems against different teams.

Why do you feel the need to bring this and me up again?

When players aren't in form or playing to the best of their ability I think the least any football fan expects is 100% effort and to compete for every ball.

I don't want to get into this again but just to reiterate my point above.