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Comparing Martinez to Rodgers is like comparing Klopp to Mourinho. Quite correct. They're both on the same level.
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Huh? Martinez, Klopp and Mourinho all won trophies.
Martinez the FA Cup.
Uncle Brendan? .... Duh... In any case, from trophies won, Martinez is better, Rodgers never even made it to a final Doesn't a Championship Play Off Final count?  Oh, and I think he even won it! 
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Comparing Martinez to Rodgers is like comparing Klopp to Mourinho. Quite correct. They're both on the same level. haha, like it...Klopp on the same level as Mourinho, let's put big Sam on the same level as Sir Alex next too, I personally thought the job was far too big for Rodgers from the handling of the Sterling affair, managing Gerrard and no trophies after spending millions...
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Comparing Martinez to Rodgers is like comparing Klopp to Mourinho. Quite correct. They're both on the same level. haha, like it... Klopp on the same level as Mourinho, let's put big Sam on the same level as Sir Alex next too, I personally thought the job was far too big for Rodgers from the handling of the Sterling affair, managing Gerrard and no trophies after spending millions... You've not been here long enough to know my views on Maureen Klopp is a very, very good manager and a definite upgrade on Rodgers. Is he as good as Maureen? Hard to say as he's been loyal to his clubs and not pimped himself around to whoever has the most money! I don't think Martinez would've done a better job. We go on about Rodgers signings but I'm still not 100% blaming him as we know there was / is the committee in place so we don't know who was fully responsible no matter what anyone says. Would Martinez have had the same restrictions and got the same type of player? I think he probably would and with FSG's apparent restrictions, I think anyone would've failed so I just hope they've changed for Klopp.
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Put it this way - if we had the suarez team with klopp, we'd probably have swept a double.
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Academic question I know but it's a football chat room
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When Martinez and Rodgers were interviewed for the Liverpool job did (with hindsight) FSG pick the wrong man.
I know he had a bad spell with Everton but overall seems to be making a good fist of it with limited resources I thought Martinez turned them down so FSG didn't really 'pick' between the 2.
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Comparing Martinez to Rodgers is like comparing Klopp to Mourinho. Quite correct. They're both on the same level. haha, like it... Klopp on the same level as Mourinho, let's put big Sam on the same level as Sir Alex next too, I personally thought the job was far too big for Rodgers from the handling of the Sterling affair, managing Gerrard and no trophies after spending millions... You've not been here long enough to know my views on Maureen Klopp is a very, very good manager and a definite upgrade on Rodgers. Is he as good as Maureen? Hard to say as he's been loyal to his clubs and not pimped himself around to whoever has the most money! I don't think Martinez would've done a better job. We go on about Rodgers signings but I'm still not 100% blaming him as we know there was / is the committee in place so we don't know who was fully responsible no matter what anyone says. Would Martinez have had the same restrictions and got the same type of player? I think he probably would and with FSG's apparent restrictions, I think anyone would've failed so I just hope they've changed for Klopp. I can see you have your views on Mouriniho but facts are there is no way on Gods Green Earth Klopp is on the same level as Mourinho, no chance. Mourinho has brought success to every Club he has managed and the only other working managers you might be able to put near his level are is Ancelotti and Pep GuardiolaI, am reserving judgement on Klopp, in years to come he may very well reach Mourinho's level but as yet he has nowhere near done enough, Klopp's only real success is winning the the German league with the second best and second biggest Club in Germany ahead of the first in a League where there is only Bayern Munich as top Quality, hardly in comparison to Mourinho who has won leagues in four different countries and a champions league with an unfashionable Club, by the way, not big fan of Mourinho but do respect his achievements.
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All Maureen has done is bought titles with ready made teams with the exception of Porto. But anyway, I've wasted too much time on this forum talking about him so that's all I'm saying on the matter  Back on topic, I actually wanted Martinez over Rodgers. But like I said earlier, I think he'd have suffered the same fate with FSG here. I just hope they've changed now as we have a really good manager who should be left to manage.
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this might help provide the answer:
Martinez signed Lukaku for £28m and got him to produce the goods
Rodgers signed Balo for £16m followed by Benteke for £32 million and...
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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All Maureen has done is bought titles with ready made teams with the exception of Porto. But anyway, I've wasted too much time on this forum talking about him so that's all I'm saying on the matter Back on topic, I actually wanted Martinez over Rodgers. But like I said earlier, I think he'd have suffered the same fate with FSG here. I just hope they've changed now as we have a really good manager who should be left to manage. Quite agree with your opinion on Martinez over Rodgers. I think the same fate will await Klopp in regards the time Rodgers got, I feel we are at the stage now that any manager whoever it is has to firstly work in the restraints of FSG, secondly having to somehow try and compete and overtake four bigger more powerful Clubs each season, emergence of Spurs and West Ham and finally and probably most important of all Liverpool fans expectation level of thinking we should still win leagues and qualify for Champions Leagues every season. No matter how good or talented a manager is money and power are King now over ability in the game.
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