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 Let us know what you thought of Liverpool's 1-0 win over Stoke City this evening in this post-match discussion thread.
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Good win ..,,
Take a one nil win every game
Klopp needs to buy ie Bender brothers Howedes Lacazette
This month
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Good win ..,,
Take a one nil win every game
Klopp needs to buy ie Bender brothers Howedes Lacazette
This month He won't be allowed to purchase one of those players, let alone 4
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We'll never know till the end of the window
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proves liverpool can play , best team by far one big step to wembley , joe allen , lucas , adam lallana and emre can really played really well , the defence was solid migno played well great all around performance at one of the toughest places to go .
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 Let us know what you thought of Liverpool's 1-0 win over Stoke City this evening in this post-match discussion thread. Very pleasantly surprised, didn't expect that to be honest. Only negative is more injuries, this high tempo game will need a big squad IMO. We will end up having no option but to choose priorities as the number of games with all the cup competitions will be too much
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really enjoyed the game cause our team was fighting from the start and many players put in a really big shift. I was positively surprised by Allen and Firmino, who had his flaws again with incomplete passes but was tracking back and working hard and Can had very good moments too.
I'm still far from convinced with Moreno's defensive performance, he gives his opponents to much space too often and is too easy to get past at times. I would like to see Jürgen giving Smith more gametime at this position.
Benteke from the moment he was brought on was invisible again and i won't accept the argument that we were only defending at that point, and that he would've had no oppotunity to create chances. When you defend, you defend as a team and Benteke is only staying in front and has even a hard time closing spaces for easy passes. Just take Arnautovic from Stoke as an example, he was fightng for 2nd balls even at their own third of the pitch. It has nothing to do with being good enough or not, it's a mere question of will!
Just remember how TERRIBLE Origi looked at the beginning of Klopp's appointment, he was then even worse than Benteke now. Klopp dropped him, even let him play with 2nd team i think and told him crsytal clear what he has to do to be involved with the first team again and wonder oh wonder Origi listened, learned and adapted. Until the moment he got injured against Leicester he was making the runs we need to get the opponent's defense into trouble and he used his pace.
If Benteke isn't able or willing to adapt and get involved in the game, he shouldn't play.
Hope we have eleven players fit on friday that want to fight for the club, that's all i need.
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Do we have 11 players fit?
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Yes Firmino had 2 passes/situations, where he was facing his own goal, with pressure from 3 other Stoke players around him, which he still could have made, Stoke were trying to counter, the (lfc) counter, by attempting to win the ball back immediately during periods of the second half. I think he did extremely well under those circumstances at times. People can say what they like, there wouldn't have been a much better player who could of for-filled that role as well as he did for liverpool, it's the difference when you put players where they are suited to their role within the team and are capable of doing it (obviously the better your team-mates around you, the better you can accomplish yourself).
Yes RedsForChampions is right we will need a less injury-prone squad if we were to try to counter attack (easier to do away from home) every week, but you talk about liverpool's high tempo that is something that is hard to achieve. Even though it's ineffective counter attacking with Benteke in the team, we could play with higher intensity in the final third as chelsea do, if Benteke suited gegenpressing, which he doesn't, Origi does more so. We can't get Benteke as involved in the game as Costa, or Giroud are, and link him with our 2cm's, and 3 am's, as arsenal and chelsea link their lonestriker to the other 5 attackers.
If we had our full squad available I'd like to see Firmino tested even further:
--------------Migs--------------- Clyne---Lovren----Sakho----Moreno
--------Lucas----Can--------------- -Lallana--Henderson--Coutinho -----------Firmino----------------
I'd like a more attacking player than Lucas there, so we could gegenpress better, not milner or allen, but well done to them last night, 10/10 for effort etc
When you watch matches like these, I don't know how some people can dismiss tactics, at this level how you set your team up is almost as important as your team 'playing well', because even if your team try do their level best if you are not setup to deal with the opposition, or be able to stay compact either through pressing or tracking back, then you are in trouble. or create chances many chances while the match is more open ie: level or ahead
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Although i'd definetly agree with Coutinho on a wing position, i'd want to remind you of our left side's performance against West Ham, it was very weak defensively due to Coutinho's lack of tracking back, Can loosing the ball going forward in a too offensive mindset for his position and Moreno's almost non physical defending giving opponents to much space for unchallenged crosses.
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