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I'd say Benteke is different in the respect he's not just a target man. He seems much better with the ball at his feet (or did at Villa anyway). Same with Lambert where as Carroll is just a target man for me. One touch finishing hardly counts as good with the ball at your feet. When he did just about manage to buy half a yard from the edge of the box though his shot power was impressive. Good with the ball at your feet, basically means you are good at dribbling, Benteke has wasted 3 1v1s, 1 vs city, 1 vs leicester, 1 vs sunderland. Is that not being good with your feet? He did score with his foot/feet didn't he? People mistake him for a target man like Carroll which he isn't.
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Carroll was skilful with his feet remember the final against Chelsea at Wembley skinned John terry.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Get him fit, long term...ha ha ha, and get him back.
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Carroll was skilful with his feet remember the final against Chelsea at Wembley skinned John terry. Or the rocket volley against Man City, his first goal for Liverpool I believe.
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Just watched the highlights again on match of the day having cooled off since yesterdays shambles. Lucas could easily have prevented that cross for the first goal. He just stood 2 metres away from Antonio, made no effort what so ever to close him down and stop the cross, gave him all the time in the world to pick a cross. Lazy lazy play from him, hope Klopp tore into him for it. Precisely what I said at the time, where was the closing down on the crosser?
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I'd say Benteke is different in the respect he's not just a target man. He seems much better with the ball at his feet (or did at Villa anyway). Same with Lambert where as Carroll is just a target man for me. One touch finishing hardly counts as good with the ball at your feet. When he did just about manage to buy half a yard from the edge of the box though his shot power was impressive. Good with the ball at your feet, basically means you are good at dribbling, Benteke has wasted 3 1v1s, 1 vs city, 1 vs leicester, 1 vs sunderland. Is that not being good with your feet? He did score with his foot/feet didn't he? People mistake him for a target man like Carroll which he isn't. Not necessarily, well if he couldn't score with his feet he wouldn't be a very good target man would he? Maybe he isn't completely a target man, but I'd be happy to see what else he has in his locker and bring out the other side of his game you claim is there, the non target man side
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We were outthought, outfought and outplayed. We simply didn’t fancy the fight and Klopp looked clueless as to what might be done about it. We can forget any thoughts of a title challenge or even the minimum target of top four. Imo it’s going to be a fight to even make 6th this season, despite the fact that everybody above us is slipping up. We look like a side that might just finish in mid table. If this shyte is Klopp’s full throttle, heavy metal football, he can stick it up his [oops]*ing exhaust pipe! What can Klopp do if the players are a bunch of fairies and don't want to fight? I think that our problem is central midfield with Hendo ending up being a star in it. When he is not around, we do not have a replacement yeah, midfield is undoubtably a problem area but so is up front and defence. We just lack quality all over the pitch and we have no quality in depth, despite 400m spent on rebuilding. The real problem is the recruitment setup and policies. It's got to change.
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What BR did was buying a squad of questionable quality (but it was too thin before too), and then he forgot to bring in the least needed amount of top players with good experience (older than 21).
Therefore I think what we need to do right now in order to get going, is ship the worst dross out (3-4 players) and replace them with 3-4 really good ones in the central line - a spine if you like.
A top 'keeper, a top cb, a top cm/dcm and a top striker. I really think (hope) that this would get us start going again.
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We were outthought, outfought and outplayed. We simply didn’t fancy the fight and Klopp looked clueless as to what might be done about it. We can forget any thoughts of a title challenge or even the minimum target of top four. Imo it’s going to be a fight to even make 6th this season, despite the fact that everybody above us is slipping up. We look like a side that might just finish in mid table. If this shyte is Klopp’s full throttle, heavy metal football, he can stick it up his [oops]*ing exhaust pipe! What can Klopp do if the players are a bunch of fairies and don't want to fight? Well it's pretty clear they aren't up for the fight, most of them don't even want to put their foot into a tackle, they don't take opponents on with the ball. They don't want to try and run in behind defenders. They don't often try to get to the bye line. Their passing is sloppy and often misses their target. Their first touch is so poor that you'd think you were watching school kids. I've seen posts saying that the side is improving!? Well you could've fooled me. If you we're manager under those circumstances wilkij, what would you do?
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We were outthought, outfought and outplayed. We simply didn’t fancy the fight and Klopp looked clueless as to what might be done about it. We can forget any thoughts of a title challenge or even the minimum target of top four. Imo it’s going to be a fight to even make 6th this season, despite the fact that everybody above us is slipping up. We look like a side that might just finish in mid table. If this shyte is Klopp’s full throttle, heavy metal football, he can stick it up his [oops]*ing exhaust pipe! What can Klopp do if the players are a bunch of fairies and don't want to fight? Well it's pretty clear they aren't up for the fight, most of them don't even want to put their foot into a tackle, they don't take opponents on with the ball. They don't want to try and run in behind defenders. They don't often try to get to the bye line. Their passing is sloppy and often misses their target. Their first touch is so poor that you'd think you were watching school kids. I've seen posts saying that the side is improving!? Well you could've fooled me. If you we're manager under those circumstances wilkij, what would you do? If I was manager in that situation, I'd go out and buy the best players I could to suit what I wanted them to do. At least then I could be judged fairly with my own players not a bunch of left over fairies!
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