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There's too much Rodgers in them. so what about chelsea, MCFC , southampton was it BR then ?? As I remember, we did perform ok against the top teams with Rodgers (not always winning) but then reduced ourselves to league 2 standards against the lesser teams as we are here. We also ALWAYS go to shitte when there's something to play for, just like now. its not BR's fault , he has gone and rightly so , klopp needs to earn his money quickly , because something is very wrong , lucky it was 3-0 today could have been 5 or 6 easy for watford . It's the players, they do not have the level, this is what is wrong.
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No it's not all Rodgers fault and not what I'm saying. But it's clear the mentality he used is still there in the players heads. Klopp has also fukked up this last few weeks. Origi scores three and is left out for fukks sake! Give the lad a run after that! Origi is no striker even if he scored a hat trick We'll never know because he's never fukking given a chance. He SHOULD have been given a game after that performance and Klopp SHOULD have stuck with 2 up top also.
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Firminho is 'The Ghost!' - you just don't notice him. And Lallana is powder puff.
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No it's not all Rodgers fault and not what I'm saying. But it's clear the mentality he used is still there in the players heads. Klopp has also fukked up this last few weeks. Origi scores three and is left out for fukks sake! Give the lad a run after that! It’s neither Rodgers nor Klopp’s fault, a manager is as good as the quality of the players at his disposal. It’s quite plainly and simply FSG’s fault. The recruitment policy and the moneyball policy of buying potential instead of recruiting players capable of competing in the PL, has us where we are now. some of us have predicted exactly what would happen and it has happened. Most prospects never reach their predicted potential and those that do will be taken off us by the sides prepared to pay the rate for quality. City took Sterling, Barca took Suarez, and were sniffing around Coutinho (though you’d wonder why watching him today!) so your best players move on, so you’re forever stuck with an uncompetitive side. That’s where we’re at, and unless there’s a complete change of policy, we’re going to stay there, thats for sure. It’s a failed policy in a league that’s much too competitive for it ever to have a chance of succeeding. FSG must either move on from it or move off from this club.
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No it's not all Rodgers fault and not what I'm saying. But it's clear the mentality he used is still there in the players heads. Klopp has also fukked up this last few weeks. Origi scores three and is left out for fukks sake! Give the lad a run after that! It’s neither Rodgers nor Klopp’s fault, a manager is as good as the quality of the players at his disposal. It’s quite plainly and simply FSG’s fault. The recruitment policy and the moneyball policy of buying potential instead of recruiting players capable of competing in the PL, has us where we are now. some of us have predicted exactly what would happen and it has happened. Most prospects never reach their predicted potential and those that do will be taken off us by the sides prepared to pay the rate for quality. City took Sterling, Barca took Suarez, and were sniffing around Coutinho (though you’d wonder why watching him today!) so your best players move on, so you’re forever stuck with an uncompetitive side. That’s where we’re at, and unless there’s a complete change of policy, we’re going to stay there, thats for sure. It’s a failed policy in a league that’s much too competitive for it ever to have a chance of succeeding. FSG must either move on from it or move off from this club. Well yeah we need some real quality but the players we have are better than losing to Newcastle and Watford and drawing with West Brom. I don't feel Klopp has picked the right team or formation since we trashed Southampton. Why not keep that formation as it was our best game of the season?
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No it's not all Rodgers fault and not what I'm saying. But it's clear the mentality he used is still there in the players heads. Klopp has also fukked up this last few weeks. Origi scores three and is left out for fukks sake! Give the lad a run after that! It’s neither Rodgers nor Klopp’s fault, a manager is as good as the quality of the players at his disposal. It’s quite plainly and simply FSG’s fault. The recruitment policy and the moneyball policy of buying potential instead of recruiting players capable of competing in the PL, has us where we are now. some of us have predicted exactly what would happen and it has happened. Most prospects never reach their predicted potential and those that do will be taken off us by the sides prepared to pay the rate for quality. City took Sterling, Barca took Suarez, and were sniffing around Coutinho (though you’d wonder why watching him today!) so your best players move on, so you’re forever stuck with an uncompetitive side. That’s where we’re at, and unless there’s a complete change of policy, we’re going to stay there, thats for sure. It’s a failed policy in a league that’s much too competitive for it ever to have a chance of succeeding. FSG must either move on from it or move off from this club. Well yeah we need some real quality but the players we have are better than losing to Newcastle and Watford and drawing with West Brom. I don't feel Klopp has picked the right team or formation since we trashed Southampton. Why not keep that formation as it was our best game of the season? Yes I accept Klopp has made some pretty fundamental mistakes, and I’ve been at pains to criticise him for those, and took some stick from the starry eyed brigade for doing so. And yes they are better than losing to those sides, but when sides get to know your style and tactics, and when you lack quality in midfield and up front a parked bus with big strong well organised defenders, can be very effective and defeat you.
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klopp needs to earn his money quickly , because something is very wrong , lucky it was 3-0 today could have been 5 or 6 easy for watford . Completely right Faz, results like this are becoming way to common. When we get battered by teams like Watford, West Ham, Crystal Palace and Stoke there is something majorly wrong. As for Firmino it looks like Darcus was correct about him, he looks lost. He doesn't have the mentality or work rate to succeed in this country, too lightweight and scared of physical contact.
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Think there is a lot of pressure on Klopp:
1. It's a new environment
2. Expects to do wonders
3. [oops] players (still have to find right combinations/1st 11)
4. Have to play shrink and try to instill self believe into these lazy fvcukrs.
Let's judge him in a full season with his own players.
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There's too much Rodgers in them. so what about chelsea, MCFC , southampton was it BR then ?? As I remember, we did perform ok against the top teams with Rodgers (not always winning) but then reduced ourselves to league 2 standards against the lesser teams as we are here. We also ALWAYS go to shitte when there's something to play for, just like now. When did we ever perform okay against top opposition under Rodgers apart from the occasional win against city?
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[quote=wilkij1975]There's too much Rodgers in them. so what about chelsea, MCFC , southampton was it BR then ?? As I remember, we did perform ok against the top teams with Rodgers (not always winning) but then reduced ourselves to league 2 standards against the lesser teams as we are here. We also ALWAYS go to shitte when there's something to play for, just like now. When did we ever perform okay against top opposition under Rodgers apart from the occasional win against city?[/quote ] battered Arsenal, battered Tottenham, battered Utd, beat City
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