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On my way home from the game today I listened to an interview with Troy Deeney on talksport.

The first thing he said was that "we bullied Liverpool". He then went on to say that "Skrtel went off because he didn't fancy it".

I find it unforgivable that Watford clearly wanted to win the game so much more than we did, they won every tackle, every second ball and showed twice as much desire as we did.

Any team can lose a game but when the opposition work harder and want it so much more there is something very wrong.

There were no good performances from Liverpool players today but what I will say is that Henderson and Sakho look like they care and are up for a battle, the rest of them are overpaid pre-madonna's who are stealing a living at LFC.

Well yes Chris, we were’nt up for it, that was pretty obvious from the start, and I would question whether we are up TO it. We have shown for a long time now that we can’t handle big strong muscular sides, and particularly side that take their game to us hard and give us little time or space. We’re just not technically good enough to handle that, and today was just more proof that we lack quality in all the critical areas. We need a virtual clear out and a changed recruitment policy and scouting system. We need fundamental change at every level in LFC.

It's embarrassing that we're getting done by what should be nothing more than pub teams compared to us. It's a fukking shambles and unacceptable.

Liverpool are more like a pub team than Watford.

These type of results are becoming all too common, teams like Leicester, Watford and Crystal Palace have proved that they are better teams than us and from what I've seen today I can't see us finishing above any of them.

I find it worrying that a Premiership footballer in Troy Deeney can come out after a game and so openly say Liverpool weren't up for the battle. That's nothing short of a disgrace.

Well we're certainly playing like one.

Skrtel is really poor, but clearly he was injured. Whenever a game turns into a battle we struggle. Too many weak players and nobody who gets stuck in in midfield. Lucas was terrible today and Can even worse. We were completely outfought in midfield and that meant our front 3 had no service at all. Add to that our goalkeeper and defence were shocking again and it is a recipe for defeat.

Klopp isn't a miracle worker, he had a great start but the workrate of the players has noticibly dropped the last 3 games. Up until the Newcastle game we were flying. Needs a major clearout I'm afraid. Goalkeeper needs replacing. Skrtel, Moreno, Lucas, Can, Lallana. These have had long enough and need to go. Benteke and Firminio need to improve massively too or they will soon be gone.

I wouldn't say that by modern standards, Watford are even a big physical side! We rarely handle anyone who is up for a battle nowadays. LFC is seen as a cash cow by many players and an instant route to purchasing mansions in Mottram St Andrew, Bowdon, Hale Barns etc along with Bentleys and Lamborghinis whilst providing state of the art gym facilities for free.

I'd love to know what guys like Jimmy Case, Steve Heighway, Tommy Smith, Phil Neal, Emlyn Hughes REALLY think about these prima donnas. They all achieved magnificent success year after year on relative pittances.

Don't be fooled by Klopps mr nice guy shakes everyone's hand image ,he is a very ruthless man and I am confident from as early as January we will start seeing this. Although we lost today rest assured he is constantly watching and assessing the players and sooner rather then later the mid table mediocracies will be back where they belong.

Klopp I think understands he has to build 2 teams within his 25 man squad ie

He needs to build a fast paced free flowing starting 11 that can destroy the top teams playing totally heavy metal football....

Then ...

He needs a team of real men who will take no prisoners , go through brick walls for him, against teams like Newcastle, wafford wba etc etc who think they can beat us by their sheer physical dominance , will to win, having a bigger heart long balls into our box etc etc....

Klopp needs to build a team that can handle the above...

I hope you're right but what mid table team could afford them or their wages apart from us?