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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
I never suggested that and you are being a pr1ck suggesting I have.


Thanks for that nice comment but I am confused as to the point you are making and I am confused as to why you have shown stats that show gun crime in America is higher than terrorism (which I am sure it is) but why America ?. Also this blows out the water all Islamic terrorism is due to American foreign policy because America has minor Islamic problems compared to Europe. France Belgium Denmark Sweden and the UK are hotbeds. This I believe is higher Islamic populations in these countries and these governments past policies of multiculturalism which has led to segregation which is less of a problem in America


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Sixties, the simple fact you have something against Islam as a religion points to the fact that you know nothing about it and thereby discredits your arguments. I really have better things to do than educate you on the topic of Islamic beliefs.


ok most islams are not terrorists but most terrorists are Islamic why if it doesn't have anything to do with the religion ?


And there we have it, that all depends on how you define TERRORISTS.

Are those who invade a sovereign country and topple their regime to steal their natural resources "terrorists"? I would say so...


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
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Sixties, the simple fact you have something against Islam as a religion points to the fact that you know nothing about it and thereby discredits your arguments. I really have better things to do than educate you on the topic of Islamic beliefs.


ok most islams are not terrorists but most terrorists are Islamic why if it doesn't have anything to do with the religion ?


And there we have it, that all depends on how you define TERRORISTS.

Are those who invade a sovereign country and topple their regime to steal their natural resources "terrorists"? I would say so...
Pray tell, where has this happened?

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@sixtiesred

religion has also become an Identity, even secular and out and out atheists in the Middle East lined up according to their religious identity in the conflicts

did the Irish go into civil war because of their views about the Pope?

Yogoslavia was a secular country but everyone started killing each other fighting for their ethnic group, not their religious beliefs.

even if you remove religion from the middle east you would still have Persians vs Arabs vs Turks vs Kurds vs Jews

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You guys all miss the point by a country mile...it's not about what there is more of, its about the fact that you are hypocritical. You scream bloody murder when a muslim kills someone but have no reaction when christians kill people. You are biggots.


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
You guys all miss the point by a country mile...it's not about what there is more of, its about the fact that you are hypocritical. You scream bloody murder when a muslim kills someone but have no reaction when christians kill people. You are biggots.


And you are a dreamer puffy clouds disband our armed forces no wars no fighting everyone get along together. You are a complete and utter fool and a complete idiot and history from from the Second World War to the beginning of time tells us time and time again if you want peace protect yourself you carry on living in la la land we will live in the real world - idiot


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stan actually believes it's ok to attack people if you are protecting your economy abroad .imperialist mentality.

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throughout history Europe has been waring against one another, however there seems to be some seeing of sense from the bigger parties as in the best part of 70 years no wars were started, ie france v England spain v france etc yet you say in the east they would still be waring if left to there own devices anyway so why what causes so much unrest between those people you mentioned? I know there have been other wars but Europe has managed to remain war free relatively


the conflicts in the middle east now are actually for the same reason, some countries want pieces of other nations and some countries want to keep what they have, that and ethnic groups fighting for supremacy. lasting peace will only come after establishing a new balance between all these nations and ethic groups.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
You guys all miss the point by a country mile...it's not about what there is more of, its about the fact that you are hypocritical. You scream bloody murder when a muslim kills someone but have no reaction when christians kill people. You are biggots.


And you are a dreamer puffy clouds disband our armed forces no wars no fighting everyone get along together. You are a complete and utter fool and a complete idiot and history from from the Second World War to the beginning of time tells us time and time again if you want peace protect yourself you carry on living in la la land we will live in the real world - idiot



I apologise to ninja for this comment I was drunk and some bad things happening not football related. But I think he is very naive we don't live in a perfect world


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