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[/quote]You are right, I don't like violence. But I am no leftie. [/quote]

I don't like it either but can understand that when shitte needs doing it needs doing. That's not to say I think bombing is the answer but it is part of the solution to wipe these mugs off the face of the earth. That doesn't make me any less 'evolved' then you though!

There are shooting incidents ninja and crimes we had Michael Ryan shoot to death school kids but your putting that on the same level as the ongoing global Islamic voilence shows the dream world you live in

You are absolutely correct, these so called "shooting incidents" have claimed more lives worldwide than all the Islamic violence you are so petrified of. Get your facts straight before you talk.

More people die as a result of the shootings than at the hands of Islamic terrorists per year. Why are you not calling for the bombing of the Uk and the states where these incidents occur? Do you think it's normal to be able to walk into a Walmart and buy an assault rifle of the counter? If you encourage violence, it will take place.

I am not sure that's factually accurate the crime statistics in the west vs deaths in Pakistan Afghanistan Far East Africa Middle East due to Islamic voilence I have no stats (neither do you) but I would like to bet the shootings in England and America are not even one per cent. But anyway your assertion because there is gun crime in the west we should ignore the global Islamic voilence is completely loopy

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from another thread

well to start the information the people in the west get about the whole chaos is very limited and plenty of what dose get reported is filtered by whatever media outlet is leaning for.

I can write several books about the game of nations going on in Syria and Iraq, it may look like only a handfull are active but in reality it's almost everyone active in the world stage, it's either direct or through other nations, when the balance shifts the big boys start to act directly, first it was Russia and now the NATO countries are about to come in.

as for ISIS they don't have any known religious leader or personality with them, all they have are self-proclaimed preachers rejected by the Ulama(recognized Muslim scholars) in all the Muslim world


the former Saddam army veterans are who form the spine and leadership of ISIS, the main second level leaders are the Chechens who operate mainly in Syria, the cannon fodder comes from Europe and Saudi kids mostly from the northern tribes who have grudges against the government since the inception of the country.

ISIS supporters committed many suicide attacks in Saudi Arabia targeting both Sunni and Shia mosques, the Ulama speak out against ISIS all the time calling them Khawarij (the outsiders), they are the subject of the media everyday.

here is the factually correct numbers for the states, published by CNN...
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/oregon-shooting-terrorism-gun-violence

Those are stats (assuming correct) are only for America where there is little terrorism I was talking about the world which you would have known had you read my post. Islamic radicalisation is far far higher in Europe than America but when you take account of Africa and the Middle East pretty sure the gun crime in America is not even a rounding number. But in any case your assertion because there is gun crime in America we should ignore Islamic state and the other groups threatening the world is loopy

I never suggested that and you are being a pr1ck suggesting I have.