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Labour party is getting bigger and going out to vote..75% approval there or there abouts JC got...just weeding out the blair/brown righties. Get Sanders in now too and we can begin to hope for a fair and functioning world.It's a mess atm

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If they're 'weeding out the righties' why was a centrist voted in last night?

Corbyn will be gone before the general election. He's too far out there for the majority of the British public and labour will realise this. He's nothing more than a leftie Farage.

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Comparing him to a racist -good call.

From watching the news it seemed that that seat was very much up for grabs, if MP's are getting easy victories because of JC then they have him to thank for it and will move to the populist position - 99% have no morals anyway.

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I am just reporting what was on newsnight Emp you are the one who posts links from blogs or interviews with individuals who you then purport to represent majority opinion. Your views are clearly extreme revolutionary left there are people like that but they are very few in number in the UK I would estimate no more than a couple of thousand. My views represent the majority of british MP's and the elected government of great britain which the majority of people voted for which is how democracy works.


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It was tight with UKIP from what I read so no great win really from a centre left Labour candidate. Nothing to do with Corbyn just a safe seat but you can spin it either way.

And yes, I am comparing Corbyn to Farage and with good reason as he's just like him in that his views are far too extreme for the majority of the British public. Of all the people I know, there isn't any that think Corbyn is anything but a plank and this is coming from both traditional Conservative and Labour supporters. I actually think he will have some good things to say but the extremism of most of what he will say will not wash over here. We're not like that anymore.

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I don't consider what the west has democracy, it is a twisted elitist funded struggle against the people not for the people.. get JC and sanders in now and things might change..You are getting worried Stan

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Well if you got a labour party growing and 75% approval ratings for its leader then a lot of people would disagree with you.

He isn't even close to being extreme its just politics has gone so extreme to the right that normal sensible ideas seem out there.

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No, he's extreme. Next time you're over here just ask some people. I bet not one would like him as our PM.

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I know I lot more about the British people than emp I am older I am British and I live in Great Britain. Emp is younger lives in Ireland and is Irish I would not lecture him on Irish politics but I would wager the Irish people don't want an anti west anti capitalist government otherwise they would have voted for one. There are people like emp politically in Britain but they are so few they don't even register in the polls I suspect it's similar in Ireland. There are people who follow Corbyn probably numbering in the millions but they will never win Tory areas which Blair managed to do by appealing to the middle. Also in safe labour seats UKIP are stealing the patriotic working class voter who is against mass immigration and weak defence and generally trashing British values which the Corbyn movement are opposed to Corbyn wants to disband our armed forces hates British values and wants unlimited immigration . That will appeal to the British far left but all it will do is win the untra safe seats they already hold such as Oldham Liverpool etc which vote labour under any circumstances. At the 2020 election I expect Corbyn to get fewer seats than milliband assuming Corbyn is still in charge


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Ahhh british values. What are they exactly? I'd say the country has gone to the sh**er but considering it tried to colonise the world, hardly a glittering past.

If 'the people' really don't want a PM who's against dropping bombs on innocents and shoot outs in the streets - we're in trouble.

I admire your optimism EMP but it's never going to change, they've got too firm a grip, he'll never be PM. They'll probably find him dead under a bush somewhere.
Just be happy with what you've got, it'll never get any better.

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