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Klopp may not have to overachieve all that much really, it's shaping up as one of those seasons, where just about anyone can win it if they strike form and get that little bit of luck, and surely we are overdue that bit of luck. Chelsea are at war with themselves if reports are correct, City are hit and miss and anyway are overrated as a team, Arsenal always flatter to deceive themselves, and United are lucky to be where they are,j and aren't up to much really, then you come to us, we are lacking in top quality at the individual level, but we've shown at times under both Rodgers and Klopp that on a day when we click and play as a team, we can beat any of them. On that basis it comes down to how much we want it and how much blood, sweat and tears we're prepared to put into winning it. It can be done, and we should be aiming for it.
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You've been praising him in all of your other threads you absolute idiot.
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You've been praising him in all of your other threads you absolute idiot. 
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So Klopp will have to over achieve then. Raffa did it for years and this man looks well capable.
If you start every game as a united side where the cornerstone is that you won't out work us, a lot is achievable and we have players coming back and a window coming up. Top4 or higher all day.
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Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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Klopp has lost one out of eight games from what I can see so far..
One loss
Two draws
Five wins
The sky is hardly falling chaps.
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All that with Rodgers motley crew 
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Klopp has lost one out of eight games from what I can see so far..
One loss
Two draws
Five wins
The sky is hardly falling chaps. Yes, and that means an average of 17/8 = 2.125 points per game. Over a PL season that would mean about 81 points. Just slightly better than what Rodgers managed over his 3 seasons at LFC that!
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So Klopp will have to over achieve then. Raffa did it for years and this man looks well capable.
If you start every game as a united side where the cornerstone is that you won't out work us, a lot is achievable and we have players coming back and a window coming up. Top4 or higher all day.
He didn't overachieve when we finished 2nd in the league. We had the best team in the league that season and we failed to win the title. Having said that, overall Rafa did a very good job.
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He didn't overachieve when we finished 2nd in the league. We had the best team in the league that season and we failed to win the title.
I think you'll find Man Utd had the best team that season, they had Ronaldo at the peak of his powers, also Van Der Saar, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Tevez, Rooney and so on.
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With top 4 back on the agenda Klopp is going to have to overachieve to meet this goal.
Arsenal, City, Utd, Chelsea have got superior squads. Spurs have similar quality to us - perhaps not a Coutinho standard player though. Klopp has surely got to hope Arsenal's injuries troubles continue and Chelsea keep under performing.
Klopp is a top (not top top) manager and he brings a brilliant team ethos to the club. However he is going to have to get ruthless with some players as our squad - particularly midfield - is simply not good enough.
Moreno - needs to improve defensively (get him off set pieces as well)
Allen - not good enough
Lucas - squad player, not good enough for starting XI
Mignolet - last chance otherwise replace in the summer
Origi - needs to be loaned out
Emre Can - nowhere near the finished article but we need to be patient
Also Sakho who somehow won player of the month for November needs to continue improve if he is going to be a top class centre back for us. I would prefer Lovren over him.
In one night your views are torn apart. Still want to loan out Origri Allen, Lucas, Can greaat tonight
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