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While we are being "holier than thou" I seem to recall you ninja saying some less than complementary things about Kosovo you might have made a point but while you are "on your high horse" might I point out that might have been a generalisation?

For myself I am very uncomfortable about excessive islamisation of the UK and I have Muslim friends was out with one last night but growing up near Preston Blackburn Bolton the seregation in these towns where they are literally split down the middle between Muslim and none Muslim makes me uncomfortable if that was to exand to the extent of Sweden I would be very concerned does that make me racist ? How would you feel if Belgrade went that way ? Be honest

Racist as someone else said is overused it'd a term increasingly not to stop discrimination but to create a situation to stop debate or shut people up. That lessens the impact where real racisim is in play


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
While we are being "holier than thou" I seem to recall you ninja saying some less than complementary things about Kosovo you might have made a point but while you are "on your high horse" might I point out that might have been a generalisation?

For myself I am very uncomfortable about excessive islamisation of the UK and I have Muslim friends was out with one last night but growing up near Preston Blackburn Bolton the seregation in these towns where they are literally split down the middle between Muslim and none Muslim makes me uncomfortable if that was to exand to the extent of Sweden I would be very concerned does that make me racist ? How would you feel if Belgrade went that way ? Be honest

Racist as someone else said is overused it'd a term increasingly not to stop discrimination but to create a situation to stop debate or shut people up. That lessens the impact where real racisim is in play


Could you point out what I said about Kosovo that was unsavoury? As a matter of fact i clearly remember saying that 99% of the people were normal, just like you or me. I said some unsavoury things about their government, that they were involved in human organ trafficking and kidnappings in those purposes. Nothing which isn't noted in the UN report compiled by Dick Marty.

But please, find the post and let me see what I said, and whether I went overboard.


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Here, I found the post for you...

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Ninja I know little about Kosovo today except it's a hotbed of corruption and worse from what little I know. So although I know nothing I would like to bet despite all Britain America and other countries did for them they hate us. And that their loyalties are to those currently waging war against us.

Am I right ?


The majority of the populaion in Kosovo is muslim now, and mostly they are good people, but as with every place, there are a few bad apples. The majority of the population neither hates the Brits nor loves them, just as you neither hate or love them. The official line from the Kosovo government is "We love the EU and America", meanwhile behind the EU's back, they are funding terrorists and causing chaos. Their government is corrupt and full of criminals imo, and I fear that soon, the EU and the West will realise they made a mistake by empowering these people.

I feel like the west knew what they were getting into but felt they could control the situation. However, the situation is slowly getting out of hand, the leaders of paramilitary units have some very underhand tactics and are very well rehearsed at guerilla warfare. I fear that the same groups which caused unrest in Serbia in 1999 could spread throughout Europe and cause more trouble, as a matter of fact, many already have, just ask the swiss, austrians, italians or greeks how they feel about them.

Their modus operandi is that they move into the country seeking refuge, or that is their excuse, they reproduce like rabbits and before you know it, they are a majority in a small piece of land. Since they are the majority, they then demand that the land becomes their sovereign land, despite the fact you took them in and sheltered them. If you say no, the terrorist acts begin.

As I said, ask the Italians, Greeks etc... It's not looking good for Europe at the moment imo.


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Ninja pretty sure the Muslim population right across Europe are mostly good people what I am I saying is the same as you but mostly good implies not all so you are admitting there is a problem.

There is an issue a big issue we can all see that put your hands over your eyes if that makes you feel better but it won't go away. I agree the situation is complex but doing nothing and hope it will all go away is not the answer.

Have you ever seen the British cities with large Muslim populations ? Just wonder if you understand what the concerns are. A guy has just been jailed for 40 years in America for planning to blow up the arndale centre in Manchester pretty much where we go shopping twice a month. It's only a matter of time before we are discussing an event over here


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I understand the Iraq army is being bolstered by Iranian Shiite proxies who are fanatical fighters this and other rebel groups supported by special forces and air power from the west might give IS something to think about I expect the British to vote to join the international force tommorrow we will see if so another humiliation for Corbyn


The british mps will vote for one but they also voted for the evil iraq war which Corbyn voted against - so I don't see it as a humiliation i see it as a man sticking to his principles - he wants to actually solve problems not make ones. If people like him were in charge when ye went all george bush nutbags then we wouldn't be in this situation. He is leading his public which is opposed , I see the Times in London is now reporting the majority of people in the UK are now against this action - probably due to Cameron's "terrorist sympathizer " remarks - probably had his dick in some livestock whilst he was saying it

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I understand the Iraq army is being bolstered by Iranian Shiite proxies who are fanatical fighters this and other rebel groups supported by special forces and air power from the west might give IS something to think about I expect the British to vote to join the international force tommorrow we will see if so another humiliation for Corbyn


The british mps will vote for one but they also voted for the evil iraq war which Corbyn voted against - so I don't see it as a humiliation i see it as a man sticking to his principles - he wants to actually solve problems not make ones. If people like him were in charge when ye went all george bush nutbags then we wouldn't be in this situation. He is leading his public which is opposed , I see the Times in London is now reporting the majority of people in the UK are now against this action - probably due to Cameron's "terrorist sympathizer " remarks - probably had his dick in some livestock whilst he was saying it


The last sentence destroys everything you wrote


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looks like it is destroying Cameron - calling his own objector MP's terrorist sympathizers , and ur foreign council committee and of course Corbyn.

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Within a 30 mile radius of where I am typing now this will be persons thinking or plotting or even attempting to commit terror acts. It will be a person born and raised in Britain went to British schools British health system British society and the technology and yet they want to kill us. Emp will say this is because of the wests foreign policy

Two points one as a developed nation we cannot allow that to dictate our foreign policy otherwise we are prisoners and held to ransom by a handful of individuals with a gun

Second why are they motivated to kill by our foreign policy they are British or in France French or Belgian German etc. no one is more hateful of western foreign policy than emp but is he about to blow himself up at cork bus station I think not. So why are these guys doing it what is the difference ?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Within a 30 mile radius of where I am typing now this will be persons thinking or plotting or even attempting to commit terror acts. It will be a person born and raised in Britain went to British schools British health system British society and the technology and yet they want to kill us. Emp will say this is because of the wests foreign policy

Two points one as a developed nation we cannot allow that to dictate our foreign policy otherwise we are prisoners and held to ransom by a handful of individuals with a gun

Second why are they motivated to kill by our foreign policy they are British or in France French or Belgian German etc. no one is more hateful of western foreign policy than emp but is he about to blow himself up at cork bus station I think not. So why are these guys doing it what is the difference ?


That would be a good question if we weren't blowing the crap out of the middle east.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Within a 30 mile radius of where I am typing now this will be persons thinking or plotting or even attempting to commit terror acts. It will be a person born and raised in Britain went to British schools British health system British society and the technology and yet they want to kill us. Emp will say this is because of the wests foreign policy

Two points one as a developed nation we cannot allow that to dictate our foreign policy otherwise we are prisoners and held to ransom by a handful of individuals with a gun

Second why are they motivated to kill by our foreign policy they are British or in France French or Belgian German etc. no one is more hateful of western foreign policy than emp but is he about to blow himself up at cork bus station I think not. So why are these guys doing it what is the difference ?


That would be a good question if we weren't blowing the crap out of the middle east.


We are bombing brutal murderers would you leave them to carry on and let's not forget just a few months ago machine gunners killed staff in Paris for posting the wrong thing in a magazine same thing in Denmark was that our fault too? I repeat my question emp you are not going to kill anyone so why are these guys different what is it ? Remember they are not from the Middle East born and raised here just like you ?????????.


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