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Stan doesn't get it, its called being a dissident.. I know I live in one of the rare privileged parts of the world, doesn't mean I hold it as some sort of anti-foreigner we are better than you type simplistic theory. It is dissidents that civilize the world and anyone looking at our record in the world and concluding that we are morally right is just plain ignorant, the fact other parts of the world are broken is largely to do with us killing them and forcing them to accept open markets.
You are a stuck in the mud conservative stan, if this website was around 30yrs ago you would be arguing how Mandela is a terrorist and how we should support apartheid cause our military defence makes money from it. Dissidents, whistleblowers, protesters and the left gave you the comfortable west and if we want the world to be a better place we have to help people and guard them against our bombs and our economic attacks..
Telling people to get on planes and leave is just moronic , who'd be left you cameron and donald trump..lovely world From what I can gather you want to change Ireland into a communist state cut off from the evil west there's nothing wrong with that opinion good luck with persuading the Irish people. Cameron was elected by the British people you might not like that you might not even like elections but the world I desire is the free democracy we enjoy it exists your world emp does not exist and nor will it ever and what's more no one wants it other than a few on the far left none of whom would last five minutes if they ever got their way I don't know how u gather that when I have clearly said I like living in the west..what I want is for us in the west to stop attacking other countries and for us in the west to support the kinda freedoms we have over there and not be like u and say well we need the money
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I would not class attacking Islamic state as the west attacking other countries in fact if you look at the countries involved most are from the Middle East plus Russia and Iran we are trying to save lives both in Syria and our own countries including yours emp don't rule out an Islamic attack on Ireland at any time
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I would not class attacking Islamic state as the west attacking other countries in fact if you look at the countries involved most are from the Middle East plus Russia and Iran we are trying to save lives both in Syria and our own countries including yours emp don't rule out an Islamic attack on Ireland at any time its attacking other countries that has led to Islamic state no matter how u try to deny that - top ranking USA intelligence people that worked in that region will tell you the exact same. Try telling them we had nothing to do with it and its all fermented terrorism. Love that phrase bty it makes me laugh generations of crazed terrorists that took the tactic to ferment their hatreds for a couple of centuries lol
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I would not class attacking Islamic state as the west attacking other countries in fact if you look at the countries involved most are from the Middle East plus Russia and Iran we are trying to save lives both in Syria and our own countries including yours emp don't rule out an Islamic attack on Ireland at any time its attacking other countries that has led to Islamic state no matter how u try to deny that - top ranking USA intelligence people that worked in that region will tell you the exact same. Try telling them we had nothing to do with it and its all fermented terrorism. Love that phrase bty it makes me laugh generations of crazed terrorists that took the tactic to ferment their hatreds for a couple of centuries lol If the only trouble was Syria your theory would have some credence but the Islamic problem is world wide including in western societies the Paris attack was planned in Belgium by Belgian citizens the London bombings by people who had lived in Leeds all their lives.
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lets be honest its all about the oil the middle east right?
and that supply is not interrupted or put on a slower drip feed to bump up the price etc etc, so letting isis or any of the nutters in the region have full and final say on production levels and supply lines of oil would be putting the nutters in charge of the asylum wouldn't it? and that would have grave results for all countries who need oil from them and would directly effect all and sundry perhaps, but if the oil is on their territory, it's their oil and they can put any price they like on it. Isn't that how capitalism works? No one is forcing the west to buy their oil.
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that's why the sooner hydrogen is made the main fuel or something similar the better! then the nutters can fight over who's sand dune is who's and nobody would give a flying F uck would they Funnily enough many predictions say future wars will be fought over sand and water supplies.
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It's nothing to do with oil the majority of the trouble is in none oil western countries Belgium Germany Britain France America Denmark Sweden etc etc along with the Far East Middle East it's a clash of civilisations and it's only just started in 20 years in Europe what exists today will be like a Sunday school picnic
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I should have never told you about the "clash of civilizations" book - u'v taken it on now as your new bible. I did add though that it has been widely ridiculed in intellectual circles. Try something from Edward Said instead.
Of course it is to do with our attacks on the middle east, you have disaffected Muslim communities in Europe watching us shock and awe and drone attack lands they see as representing their heritage, of course some will be radicalized. That is just plainly obvious.
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I should have never told you about the "clash of civilizations" book - u'v taken it on now as your new bible. I did add though that it has been widely ridiculed in intellectual circles. Try something from Edward Said instead.
Of course it is to do with our attacks on the middle east, you have disaffected Muslim communities in Europe watching us shock and awe and drone attack lands they see as representing their heritage, of course some will be radicalized. That is just plainly obvious. You who do not want borders, I suppose you'd'be all right with opening up completely to the refugees and asylum seekers in Ireland would you? They can easily match the Irish population if they are allowed in, would you be ok with that?
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