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I think they still needed evidence to prove he organised the 9-11 attacks. Demanding they hand him over without evidence and dropping bombs on a country if they don't is pretty much terrorism.
The taliban made tentative offers to hand him over after evidence. They're not idiots, they knew what the US would do. If they handed him over they'd have thought of something else anyway.

It gets more ridiculous the more you think about it. Some guy might have committed a major crime, so they invaded a country where he might be hiding, but probably wasn't, killing hundereds of thousands. Then the guy in a nearby country might have some decent weapons (they must have looked at the receipts in Washington) so they killed a few hundered thousand innocent civilians.

What would we or America do if Iran said a terroist might be hiding in the UK. Hand him over or we'll drop bombs on London. While you're at it, get rid of the Conservative party, we're bringing our own guys in. That would be Iran spreading democracy I suppose.

America had a chance to unite countries to their cause, root out the real terroists help internal forces make change in THEIR countries. The fact they did the opposite and people justify it shows how far the propoganda model's gone. It's a matter of time before the US and Russia go to war over Ukraine, Syria etc.. and it'll be good night folks.
Can't say we don't deserve it.

I don't know much about Corbyn's policies but if he's anti-war/anti-terrorism, he'll never make PM.

The Labour Party has always had a far left radical element I remember Liverpool in the 1980's I also understand there was a movement in the 1930's. But the lid has always been kept on it kinnock dealt with them then Blair. Milliband was weak and effectively they have taken over the membership of the Labour Party. Don't mistake this with the electorate it's simply the looney left is all in one place. Even if Corbyn left the members would vote another far left candidate effectively guaranteeing labour will be in the wilderness for 30 years. I am a Tory you would think I would be happy with this I am not a country needs an effective opposition especially now as seems likely we could be at war for decades ahead from the Islamist threat

sounds like u are getting worried stan. JC represents a new wave of politically active public, the numbers that protested the Iraq War were unprecedented and its the same now, labour mps are isolated , they don't represent their members - who massed to get their man in and are behind him now on trident and on syria. Your wish for this insane endless war might come to an end. It is time for West to remove the shackles of cosy elite leadership that cause havoc with their wars and elitist capitalism .

Look mate, I do not have anything to do with UK politics or even the West, but, for UK's sake, it better that JC doesn't become PM. France is in complete economic mess with the Socialist government in power, it will be worse with JC's labour, believe me. Europe is our main trade partners for exports, tourism etc, and I prefer them to be sound economically. Far left is history now and for decades to come, even the moderate lefties are moving to the centre/centre right.

I think you will find neo-liberalism the cause of the economic crisis not socialist policies at all.

No, I don't think so as I have a very good experience of USSR and how a system can make people not give the best of themselves and even make some lazy without them knowing it. You won't know if you haven't lived in the system. Socialist policies are great but on paper.

Liberalism in the neo -liberalism sense has nothing to do with people it is in fact against the people..it is liberal in that it allows investors and capitalists to operate unchecked and unregulated which has lead to economic disaster. For the vast majority of people unchecked capitalism has been a disaster, the labour movements did manage to create a middle class in the west but that has been under attack since the nixon era when production was sent out east. Before that was probably capitalisms best era when the GOVTs had national social programs and strong labour movements to counter unchecked capitalist intent .. that situation was reversed under nixon and reagan thatcher types and the west has been in decline since, maybe a tech inspired spike around the clinton era being the only exception.

Socialism the way u see is the govt deciding for u and I can understand that if you grew up in the USSR but socialism to me is protecting the society from private tyranny.

Does anyone still believe all this leftist, right, centre-left crap? It's all one system...

I don't know the answer but you can't deny capitalism is the cause of most of the world's problems. Even communist/socialist countries will never work mostly because capatilism sticks it's beak in.

And emp as for your idea of the west having a legal discussion with the Taliban after 9/11 that would be interesting as Islam has an entirely different legal system under the Koran you are allowed to defend yourself the interpretation of which is wide and subjective. So the Taliban would claim 9/11 was a legitimate act against an imterialist aggressor. Perhaps they could have called you as a witness ?