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Indonesians have as much right as anyone to be pretty angry with US foreign policy and us 'good guys'.

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Originally Posted By: RedJohn
Indonesians have as much right as anyone to be pretty angry with US foreign policy and us 'good guys'.


Is red john red as in liverpool red? or red as in the communist red flag ?


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I think the people claiming its our foreign policy are misguided but that's a legitimate viewpoint but those posters in recent posts claiming the atrocities being committed in Syria are somehow not happening are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves I don't believe it's because they don't know but that they would rather turn their back on what is medieval butchery on a vast scale than admit they might be wrong. Yes there are human rights abuses in some nations but that cannot be used to justify this which is happening on an enormous scale


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I think you are making sh1t up to suit your argument and have been doing so for years. I think you Lake comprehension skills and intentionally try to wind people up, but that's a valid viewpoint.


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
I think you are making sh1t up to suit your argument and have been doing so for years. I think you Lake comprehension skills and intentionally try to wind people up, but that's a valid viewpoint.


Anyone can make a basic insult this is a debate on probably one of the most significant issues affecting the world today. From what I can recall of your contribution it's peace and goodwill to all men and no violence well I think we all would agree with that but unfortunately just wishing for it is unlikely to achieve it us all having to live in the real world which is a bit nasty. Your comment about Saudi Arabia periodically beheading prisoners under their penal system and using that to make light of the genocide in Syria by Islamic state is simply disgusting. We don't live in a perfect world we can't solve every problem but there are so things so heinous it's pure evil to use another thing to justify doing nothing hence emboldening those doing the genocide. You also questioned whether the crucifixions and other medieval torture methods were actually happening implying they were western propaganda despite IS showing these regularly on social media and the tales from victims of which there are thousands. you also called Brits scum which don't worry ninja I won't forget in a long time


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
My uncle was in the desert rats


Bob Geldof was in the Boomtown Rats.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
My uncle was in the desert rats


Bob Geldof was in the Boomtown Rats.


My uncle if he was alive today would laugh out loud at that


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Just because you are a paranoid freak doesn't mean you are right. INDONESIA is one of the least extreme muslim nations in the world. They have a woman as president and are hardly terrorists. When was the last time you heard of an Indonesian suicide bomber or Indonesian gunman or Indonesian warlord. Get real.


Wasn't there a terrorist bomb attack in Bali, which forms part of Indonesia, quite recently? Did you miss that? Morocco is also not considered as an extreme muslim nation, however, their nationals or people of their origin are involved in terrorism in France

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
I think you are making sh1t up to suit your argument and have been doing so for years. I think you Lake comprehension skills and intentionally try to wind people up, but that's a valid viewpoint.


Anyone can make a basic insult this is a debate on probably one of the most significant issues affecting the world today. From what I can recall of your contribution it's peace and goodwill to all men and no violence well I think we all would agree with that but unfortunately just wishing for it is unlikely to achieve it us all having to live in the real world which is a bit nasty. Your comment about Saudi Arabia periodically beheading prisoners under their penal system and using that to make light of the genocide in Syria by Islamic state is simply disgusting. We don't live in a perfect world we can't solve every problem but there are so things so heinous it's pure evil to use another thing to justify doing nothing hence emboldening those doing the genocide. You also questioned whether the crucifixions and other medieval torture methods were actually happening implying they were western propaganda despite IS showing these regularly on social media and the tales from victims of which there are thousands. you also called Brits scum which don't worry ninja I won't forget in a long time


I don't think anybody is claiming ISIS are anything less than sub-human scum. That is not even an argument, the only argument is our responsibility for creating them and a credible plan for making that region better. I don't see any admissions of guilt and I don't see any plan that makes that region a better place.

We could have actually an opportunity to make the world a much safer place, if the UN had a mandate to destroy ISIS , set up the two states in Palestine, but pressure on the Saudi's to stop funding the Jihad's ,stopped Turkey and the US from having the Kurds on a terrorist list and declared a return to pre neocon conditions were the shia are safe supported by the reds and the sunni's an israel are safe supported by the capitalists ...what is happening now is only due to the neocons aggressive and uncaring foreign policy.....that is the large shadow in which only bad things can grow.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Just because you are a paranoid freak doesn't mean you are right. INDONESIA is one of the least extreme muslim nations in the world. They have a woman as president and are hardly terrorists. When was the last time you heard of an Indonesian suicide bomber or Indonesian gunman or Indonesian warlord. Get real.


Wasn't there a terrorist bomb attack in Bali, which forms part of Indonesia, quite recently? Did you miss that? Morocco is also not considered as an extreme muslim nation, however, their nationals or people of their origin are involved in terrorism in France


Well we westerners have never terrorised anyone in our history whistle

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