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Don't think so it came after the defeat at El Alamein

You best come back tomorrow, if you carry on today its just too easy for me.

hahahhah...numpty

awwww come back to show me my ignorance on this matter I am getting a laugh

Reverting to your 14 year old persona emp ? The Nazis and Italians were not in the Middle East to top up their sun tan it was for oil, when it was obvious they were not going to win in that theatre invading Russia for its huge oilfields was their only option or did they invade Russia to go sledging ? I will leave it to others to judge who is the numpty

lol..Like it stan, totally wrong but tries to be right anyway..Nice one. If you have studied history you will know that Hitler's main goal was Russia - Mein Kampf clearly states this, you would also know that Hitler saw the middle east as very much a side show and was forced into it cause the italians got their ass kicked.. same as they did in greece which is why Hitler did have to invade the balkans first to secure his oil supplies in Romania . He did want Russian oil though and many of his generals said the best way to get this would be attacking through the middle east but hitler refused this was he wanted a big dramatic german push from central europe.

I can give u history lessons all day if u like, think u would know something about it since ur country was directly involved..alas I gotta go out.. there are loads of documentaries out there though should u wish to start calling other people ignorant and not be shown up as a fool..good luck with that

Can't say I have read mein kampf emp so I will bow to your superior knowledge on that but it says much about you if that's your bedtime reading. As you have admitted hitler nvaded Russia out of necessity for its oil he may have wanted to invade also for territorial reasons but the oil made it essential given the loss of the Middle East. Saying he was not bothered about the Middle East was just silly no one intiates a huge miliary campaign if they are not bothered that's childish. The fact is there were large tank battles in the Middle East at the early stages of the war and the only reason was oil (there was nothing else there) hitler lost that's history

Both battles of El Alamein took place in 1942 Stan.

Operation Barbarossa began in June 1941

I know about the dates but the Germans were not making progress in the Middle East hence the change in strategy without oil they could not fight the war in the end that was one if the main things that beat them both in Russia and in Europe after d day the German tanks were very powerful but their weakness was they were heavy on fuel