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I disagree, western actions have clearly created and fueled ISIS exactly as the whistleblowers and anyone with a brain can see. If it was that serious as u say then we would be on top of Turkey to partol its borders, on top of qatar and the saudi's to stop funding ISIS and we would have taken them out already..like i mean we blitzed Iraq when it had practically zero dangerous ambitions towards the west.. this whole thing is a construct. Yet you start pointing the finger at iran ? Given our history with Iran I would imagine their govt would jump at the chance to destroy the west. Pretty good case of self defense would u not agree? But ISIS are not Iran ..ISIS are in the main the sunni's who we support in the region

hate a good neocon more like it, seeing as u are living in the same world they created u should too.

The badly handled exit from Iraq by Obama did fuel Isis in Syria and Iraq as did the installation of an Iranian backed Shia president but Isis are just one in a big portfolio of Islamic terror groups all over the world including Britain and Europe some are large organisations some small some a handful some individuals this is a global movement for Islam to rule the world and it will be a generational fight. This existed well before 9/11 and the first Iraq war taking action can lead to more trouble but not taking action can lead to more trouble too. We are damned if we do damned if we don't but to sit back and allow our extinction is not the way we are as people we fought the nazis we will fight this threat too.

Hook line and sinker.U bought into it or you are selling it? How many Islamic Fundamentalist attacks in UK before Iraq invasion?

The way out of this "endless war" is not to keep droning and keep killing ..the way out of this is to support justice and freedom and stop killing people in their thousands.

Bernie and Jeremy - real people get out there and vote..I promise this constructed Islamic endless war bullcrap will end if we have actually people in office not elitist puppets.

Jeremy Corbyn can't even control his own party never mind the nation he is a laughing stock. The Islamic fundamentalist Wahhabi problems have been around for 200 years or more and I believe have been fermenting not because we have taken action but because we have not taken action. Simply because it's difficult and volatile we have stood back Syria being an example Britain refused to get involved in 2013 that is now seen as a mistake

The fact that you are not up to date in terms of world geography doesn't change the FACTS my friend. Malaysia, Bangladesh and Indonesia together have a population of around 450 million muslims, in each of those countries women are held in highest regard and have equal rights to men.

Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran together boast a population of around 125 million.

So you see, it is not true that in general women are treated poorly in muslim countries. In fact, the majority of muslim countries give women the same rights as men.

The fact that you choose to believe what western media chooses to spoon feed you and are incapable or unwilling to do some research and educate yourself on the topic is a different story.

You see, when you get people with poor knowledge of the facts voting and making decisions on matters of this importance, you get false stories about WMD's and hundreds of innocent lives lost. You see, being as you put it "undefended" is not the best way to invite ISIS, the best way to invite ISIS is to go and destroy the places for personal gain and give the extremist few a great story to tell future recruits, and someone to blame for all the attrocities. That is what invites ISIS and gives them strength. What you are doing and preaching and hoping for, that is what ISIS thrives off unfortunately. One day, hopefully before it is too late, we will all realise this.

Ninja that argument does not work on me yes I doubt doubt there are Muslim countries who treat women better than Saudi etc but that's not universal. In Christian western countries women are treated equally more or less everywhere albeit were not so 100 years ago but we progressed. Your argument seems to be there are exceptions so the problem doesn't exist.

fermented terrorism - lol

I don't know any thing of this Bernie fella but Corbyn would be a fukking joke! As stan says, he can't even control his own party so why would he be a great leader for this country? The bloke is a fukking moron and won't even make the general election let alone win it.

That's not to say I'm anti Labour before you start calling me an elitist lover. I couldn't care less what party is running the country as long as the right man is in charge and that certainly wouldn't be Jezza!

again, your failure to comprehend the fact that Indonesia, Malaysia and Bangladesh are not the exception but are the norm, points towards right wing, bigoted views. I'll leave it at that.

Furthermore, if you believe women are treated equally in western society, perhaps you should take a look at the average income earned by men and women in same level positions and when you realise how big the gap is, try and comprehend.


You say western society has progressed, yes in the manner that they no longer behead people with axes and use drones now instead, but the barbarity of the west, the greed and the deceit has stayed the same.