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I think he and others on here have clearly shown they are in favor of eliminating ISIS, but have a more nuanced non reactionary racist "full scale civil war" -"your either with us or against" capitlaist mentality.

Only a buffon or an evil person could look at the situation we created in the middle east and conclude that we are in the right. You choose to ignore the drone operators and national security advisors that clearly say we created ISIS and fuel them with our Drone campaign. Could not be more unequivocal.

Do you think 7/7 would have happened if the UK choose not to join the insane neocon Bush Govt on its quest for money and destruction in the middle east? Can be pretty confident it would not have. Bin Laden and his nutjob crew(that we created of course) were a relatively small terrorist group that had been kicked out to the margins of the middle east.

There was sympathy in the muslim world that could have been harnessed after 9/11 that could have marginalized bin laden and his nutjobs..instead the neocons used 9/11 to excuse their own agenda. And again this agenda is not a secret conspiracy ..it is in writing ..Richard Pearle comments in 1997 spoke of removing saddam ,destroying syria etc etc ..Google search Gen Wesley Clark and his comments regards being told of the neocon agenda in the middle east.This is a neocon capitalist agenda to support the military industry and the nutjob sunni and israeli states we support down there.

If we want solutions then we support actions that allow more freedoms and justice in that region, because despite your islamophobic rhetoric people down there want democracy and peace. So we should support them, so when Saudi invades Bahrain to kill protesters we shouldn't ok that..I remember when that ass Cameron was asked about that he had the gaul to say it wasn't the same situation as other areas in the middle east because the bahrain govt had promised reform lol..i mean the hypocrisy is too stunning .

We should support the international consensus on a two state solution in Palestine, not support the extreme sunni states that fund ISIS and not follow the anti-poor people Shia war started by nutjob neocons for money

I am against violence, FULL STOP. Because ISIS and the complete failure of a world we live in today are the result of the violence, perpetrated by, and policies ,put in place by, the people you support.

Treating women as second class is not Islamic in it's nature at all. You are spouting absolute nonsense. Look at Malaysia and Indonesia.

Basically, Islam, just like any other religion serves a purpose of providing people with hope. When all else around you is destroyed, when your infrastructure is non existent, when communities are destroyed, when people cannot earn a living, that's when religion pops it's ugly head.

The US and Britain love to go around starting wars wherever there is a wealth of natural resources. They started it, they destroyed the existing infrastructure and communities and created the perfect home for the rise of religious extremism. Having done so, they now want to utiliye the same methodology to destroy it. Having not learned from their previous mistakes, they will simply give rise to an even more horrific organization.

Stop ISIS, by all means, but do so in a measured, adequate way, not by wiping Syria off the face of the planet.

Agree with you but not about "mistakes" these are not "mistakes" these are deliberate actions.

Its fine saying you are against violence but that will not stop it and being undefended is the best way to invite it. Women are treated as second class throughout the Islamic world I cant speak for Malaysia and Indonesia but even if they treat women wonderfully there it does not change the general point. And I presume from your deflecting answer you would do nothing whatsoever against ISIS.

No one is going to wipe syria off the planet there will be an international coalition from the air and likely ground forces made up of arab nations including syria stop being silly

Try reading what other poeople say that is exactly what I have said mant times and that is what is going to happen from what I have read / watched on TV. Your problem is alweays always always on any subject capitalisim and the west are wrong. Thats because you are a toy town revolutionary be it riots or islamic terrorism they are all opportunties to launch your tirades but if you hate the west stop living here and clear off

Its in writing stan, the neocons like Dick Cheney,Wolfowitz,Pearle ,Rumsfeld,Scooter libby etc etc actually took the time to lift a pen and sign the "Project for a new American Century" which speaks of wishing for a "new pearl harbour" to advance american Militarism ambitions of destroying iraq and syria with iran next on the list.People like you advance their ambitions.

kinda like when "mein kampf" was written and spoke of killing the jew and invading russia - it was supported by the equivalent of u spouting theories of jewish and slav birth rates and ideological wars.

We are living in the neocon agenda century that these capitalist nuts wrote and signed..they wanted it and its here. Endless war.

You do love a good neocon don't you?

Emp pretty much the whole western world and a good part of the Islamic is approving of removing Islamic terrorism be that Islamic state or whoever Australasia Europe Americas Asia here in the UK there is cross party support so it's hardly the neo conservative American red necks as you are portraying. The strategic defence review yesterday in the UK worryingly identified a nuclear or biological threat in the medium term possibly delivered by ballistic missiles seized from Hezbollah supplied by your mates Iran. So the stakes could not be higher doing nothing would be suicide for our societies we may also see armed troops regularly patrolling in European cities that's how serious this is.