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The U.S left supplies, vehicles, amunition and weapons on the ground when they pulled out instead of destroying everything as is the basic rule when retreating - it all seems a little suss to me. Add to that the air drops that conveniently ended up in the hands of ISIS instead of the Kurds and it doesn't take a genius to question what their intentions really were. The famous photos of ISIS huge convoy of brand spanking SUV's snaking down the roads makes one question why they were never targetted by drones or aircraft at the time either  The U.S has used these tactics time and time again, funding the likes of Al Qaida and the rebels in Libya to oust Gaddafi, just to name a few in modern times... not to mention the countless cock ups in central and south America.. Anyone who has youtube access can listen to Hillary Clinton admitting to the American role in forming jihadi movements. The Americans plan and finance, the rest becomes easy. People underestimate the role played by the media in spreading all this bullshyte and turning normal teenagers into crazy suicidal morons. You will be amazed at the huge number (literally hundreds)of islamic TV stations injecting poison into people's minds through arabsat and nilesat, the two satellites used by these stations(if the west is serious about fighting isis, the first thing they should do is destroy these satellites) , not to mention what imams preach in their mosques every friday and all those jihadi websites convincing teenagers that the moment they blow themselves up, they'll be in heaven with seventy two virgins waiting for them so you can imagine all those orgies taking place up there at this moment. That woman who blew herself up in Paris the other day must have been a lesbo, I presume. Will there not be a load of blokes waiting for her?? No unfortunately, they hadn't thought of that when they designed their "heaven".
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I heard Edward Snowden getting the blame for the Paris attacks yesterday from certain U.S media outlets, believe it or not.. Given he did leak a lot of intelligence secrets and their methods of working there is probably some truth to that the man is a traitor I suppose that fits with your fear of a muslim planet theory. Snowden's leaks told us that the US government is collecting the phone logs of millions of citizens with no connection to terrorism whatsoever, without a warrant of any kind. You're the one harping on about how we in the west live in a free society, not when our governments can and do intercept our emails, passwords, facebook, google searches and skype conversations.
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Regardless of how they started and who was responsible, we have to wipe them out. Anyone who thinks we don't are wrong. But we should learn and try not to make anymore mistakes in the future that may come back to bite us. I agree, but millitary force and the bombing of entire cities will not lead to them being wiped out, it will lead to them strengthening and growing in numbers. You wanna wipe them out? Cut off all of their supply lines, without weapons, and media presence, they can neither organiye nor kill. You say it's impossible, I say, I have seen it done with graphite bombs and electromagnetic pulses which kill off any telecommunications...
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He leaked confidential sensitive information and he has fled to Russia that's all we need to know about Edward snowden. Hopefully one day he will face justice although it looks like he will be under the protection of Russia for life. And yes I do fear one day an Islamic world albeit I will never see it the objective of IS is world domination and they have set a target broadly of a hundred years if they are succcesful your kids and grandkids will live in it if living is the right word
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Regardless of how they started and who was responsible, we have to wipe them out. Anyone who thinks we don't are wrong. But we should learn and try not to make anymore mistakes in the future that may come back to bite us. I agree, but millitary force and the bombing of entire cities will not lead to them being wiped out, it will lead to them strengthening and growing in numbers. You wanna wipe them out? Cut off all of their supply lines, without weapons, and media presence, they can neither organiye nor kill. You say it's impossible, I say, I have seen it done with graphite bombs and electromagnetic pulses which kill off any telecommunications... They will be doing all that along with Arab and Kurdish ground forces and paid Sunni tribesmen along with hitting their supply and revenues bombing is just one aspect.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Regardless of how they started and who was responsible, we have to wipe them out. Anyone who thinks we don't are wrong. But we should learn and try not to make anymore mistakes in the future that may come back to bite us. I agree, but millitary force and the bombing of entire cities will not lead to them being wiped out, it will lead to them strengthening and growing in numbers. You wanna wipe them out? Cut off all of their supply lines, without weapons, and media presence, they can neither organiye nor kill. You say it's impossible, I say, I have seen it done with graphite bombs and electromagnetic pulses which kill off any telecommunications... I don't care how they do it but it needs doing. If that means bombing then so be it. Ideally a more peaceful way though like you suggested.
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I heard Edward Snowden getting the blame for the Paris attacks yesterday from certain U.S media outlets, believe it or not.. Given he did leak a lot of intelligence secrets and their methods of working there is probably some truth to that the man is a traitor I suppose that fits with your fear of a muslim planet theory. Snowden's leaks told us that the US government is collecting the phone logs of millions of citizens with no connection to terrorism whatsoever, without a warrant of any kind. You're the one harping on about how we in the west live in a free society, not when our governments can and do intercept our emails, passwords, facebook, google searches and skype conversations. I personally couldn't give two shittes if the government listen to my calls and check my texts as I have nothing to hide. But it could enable them to find people with something to hide which could then help them stop atrocities like that in Paris.
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The U.S left supplies, vehicles, amunition and weapons on the ground when they pulled out instead of destroying everything as is the basic rule when retreating - it all seems a little suss to me. Add to that the air drops that conveniently ended up in the hands of ISIS instead of the Kurds and it doesn't take a genius to question what their intentions really were. The famous photos of ISIS huge convoy of brand spanking SUV's snaking down the roads makes one question why they were never targetted by drones or aircraft at the time either The U.S has used these tactics time and time again, funding the likes of Al Qaida and the rebels in Libya to oust Gaddafi, just to name a few in modern times... not to mention the countless cock ups in central and south America.. Anyone who has youtube access can listen to Hillary Clinton admitting to the American role in forming jihadi movements. The Americans plan and finance, the rest becomes easy. People underestimate the role played by the media in spreading all this bullshyte and turning normal teenagers into crazy suicidal morons. You will be amazed at the huge number (literally hundreds)of islamic TV stations injecting poison into people's minds through arabsat and nilesat, the two satellites used by these stations(if the west is serious about fighting isis, the first thing they should do is destroy these satellites) , not to mention what imams preach in their mosques every friday and all those jihadi websites convincing teenagers that the moment they blow themselves up, they'll be in heaven with seventy two virgins waiting for them so you can imagine all those orgies taking place up there at this moment. That woman who blew herself up in Paris the other day must have been a lesbo, I presume. Will there not be a load of blokes waiting for her?? More likely a sink full of breakfast dishes.
Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love 
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When you read what IS are doing in the captured areas torturing and killing the men folk in the most gruesome ways in camps and prisons shooting dead all women over 30 and throwing them in pits and putting young girls in cages to sell in markets and executing sometimes with young people as judges on the drop of a hat and here's us in the west with the weaponry we have it is pure evil to do nothing to stop it and as for pontificating about political events over the past 30 years and using this to strike political points that is beyond contempt. Who cares who did what ? In the name of humanity and decency we have to act now in the situation we have but I agree intelligently not all guns blazing but act we must
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"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions"
Richard Pearle to Nentanyahu in 1996. These are the same guys that outed an American Spy cause she went against the BS WMD lies. Traitors to their own country..do they even have countries? I don't think so..its all just money money money I think all you guys that quote from books written after the event should try politics and see if you can sort without hindsight its the politicians that write these books before the event.
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