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Drone Whistleblowers and former CIA national security advisers are saying we created ISIS by destroying Iraq and we are fueling their recruitment by killing scores of civilians with Drone strikes. Bloody obvious anyway but of course u disagree with the obvious
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If terrorism is all to do with western policies then should we change those policies ? And on whose direction ? are we to be slaves of whom exactly ? We are a free democractic society but that freedom has come through fighting for our freedom. Also if it's all to do with western policy how come the majority of terrorists or at least an equal number are westerners of Muslim religion and how come many of the victims are Muslims by Muslim on Muslim voilence on the wrong type of Muslims in IS eyes such as we are seeing in Syria is that the west too ? And how come if it's to do with western foreign policies we have heard no political demands from them? Slaves,WW3, full scale civil wars..u really talk some load of nonsense hyperbole. We stop committing our international crimes - forget about anyone else. You know damn well it has nothing to do with fighting for freedoms, u live in a Imperialistic invading country..its to do with fighting for the freedom of capitalistic corporations to steal the resources and money of other countries and if u don't know that then just look at history..where exactly have we fought for our own freedoms in the last 60yrs?
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If terrorism is all to do with western policies then should we change those policies ? And on whose direction ? are we to be slaves of whom exactly ? We are a free democractic society but that freedom has come through fighting for our freedom. Also if it's all to do with western policy how come the majority of terrorists or at least an equal number are westerners of Muslim religion and how come many of the victims are Muslims by Muslim on Muslim voilence on the wrong type of Muslims in IS eyes such as we are seeing in Syria is that the west too ? And how come if it's to do with western foreign policies we have heard no political demands from them? Slaves,WW3, full scale civil wars..u really talk some load of nonsense hyperbole. We stop committing our international crimes - forget about anyone else. You know damn well it has nothing to do with fighting for freedoms, u live in a Imperialistic invading country..its to do with fighting for the freedom of capitalistic corporations to steal the resources and money of other countries and if u don't know that then just look at history..where exactly have we fought for our own freedoms in the last 60yrs? So what's your plan then? Leave ISIS alone and hope they won't espand further?
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The americans supplied them with almost everythig they have - when the yanks pulled out they left all their vehicles, amunition and weapons... They helped create the monster - should have destroyed everything when they left. It seems to me they backed isis to do the states dirty work in Syria for them..... and it backfired like every other cunning plan they've had over the last sixty odd years 
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The americans supplied them with almost everythig they have - when the yanks pulled out they left all their vehicles, amunition and weapons... They helped create the monster - should have destroyed everything when they left. It seems to me they backed isis to do the states dirty work in Syria for them..... and it backfired like every other cunning plan they've had over the last sixty odd years I think you will find they supplied the Iraq army with the best of intentions of creating a stable government in Iraq but yes it went wrong but they did not supply Islamic state and even now they only have light weapons and 30 tanks. Reading over the weekend there is now a UN resolution the carrier Charles de Gaul in position and an American carrier on the way alongside fearsome Russian firepower on land sea and air and as I have been arguing an international force being assembled diplomatic work being done in Geneva to try to create a stable post conflict Syria. But in the meantime Islamic state are about to meet their nemesis it won't be just arms it will be working with the Sunni tribes to islolate them. its a long and difficult road ahead and there will be many setbacks the most difficult will not be the next few months but the Islamic problems in our own societies that will be a generational task.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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The U.S left supplies, vehicles, amunition and weapons on the ground when they pulled out instead of destroying everything as is the basic rule when retreating - it all seems a little suss to me. Add to that the air drops that conveniently ended up in the hands of ISIS instead of the Kurds and it doesn't take a genius to question what their intentions really were. The famous photos of ISIS huge convoy of brand spanking SUV's snaking down the roads makes one question why they were never targetted by drones or aircraft at the time either  The U.S has used these tactics time and time again, funding the likes of Al Qaida and the rebels in Libya to oust Gaddafi, just to name a few in modern times... not to mention the countless cock ups in central and south America..
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The U.S left supplies, vehicles, amunition and weapons on the ground when they pulled out instead of destroying everything as is the basic rule when retreating - it all seems a little suss to me. Add to that the air drops that conveniently ended up in the hands of ISIS instead of the Kurds and it doesn't take a genius to question what their intentions really were. The famous photos of ISIS huge convoy of brand spanking SUV's snaking down the roads makes one question why they were never targetted by drones or aircraft at the time either The U.S has used these tactics time and time again, funding the likes of Al Qaida and the rebels in Libya to oust Gaddafi, just to name a few in modern times... not to mention the countless cock ups in central and south America.. They thought that the threat was Iran, but, Shia or Sunni, they are all the same shyte.
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Real eyes, realize, real lies...
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"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions"
Richard Pearle to Nentanyahu in 1996. These are the same guys that outed an American Spy cause she went against the BS WMD lies. Traitors to their own country..do they even have countries? I don't think so..its all just money money money
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I heard Edward Snowden getting the blame for the Paris attacks yesterday from certain U.S media outlets, believe it or not..
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