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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Also, Muslims are people, you are aware of that right? They are not rats and they are not all extremist and they don't all believe women can't go to school and drive and vote. As a matter of fact, the majority of Muslims are normal, just as you or I are. Nations have changed religions before. Look at how many Indians are now Catholic whilst there ancestors were Hindu.

Is it really such a terrible thing that it is worth killing other humans for? What separates us from the terrorists then if we are fighting to preserve and spread our race and religion and they are doing the same?



Really? Don't know a lot, maybe you are talking about those who converted during colonial times, in fact, more converted to Islam during the Mogul days, lots of them by force. These days I see a lot of atheist westerners following religious beliefs like Krishna's consciousness. But yes, people do convert and hopefully they do not get forced to, by extremists.

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Originally Posted By: lumba
Im a pro with a trade you cheeky git but I'm certainly not comfortable in the world we live in.


I am sorry for you, that's all I can do.

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
Just a typo emp but yours is delushional b/s of everything will be ok leave it to humanity it'll be fine what a joke seriously


The whole world becoming muslim is not a problem as long as it happens by choice. Forcing people to convert is the issue

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
If you rise up against the muslim world and turn them away from britain, America and the west, they will feel unwanted and will turn to someone who wants them, someone who will make them feel like they belong. That someone will be ISIS and they will grow. It will play straight into their hands.

The only way to fight inhumanity is with humanity.


You know what, those terrorists in France are grand children of migrants who were accepted in France decades ago. Europe accepted all sorts of religions and races, however, a most of them integrated the society for example Indians in UK, instead of bombing their fellow countrymen.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
If you rise up against the muslim world and turn them away from britain, America and the west, they will feel unwanted and will turn to someone who wants them, someone who will make them feel like they belong. That someone will be ISIS and they will grow. It will play straight into their hands.

The only way to fight inhumanity is with humanity.


stan has nailed his colours to the wall, he admitted he is a right wing neo [oops] that thinks its ok to kill people and topple democracies for money.Just keep preaching ur rational thoughts, most people think neo-cons are insane anyway


Stop talking shiite, where did he say that?

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
If you rise up against the muslim world and turn them away from britain, America and the west, they will feel unwanted and will turn to someone who wants them, someone who will make them feel like they belong. That someone will be ISIS and they will grow. It will play straight into their hands.

The only way to fight inhumanity is with humanity.


stan has nailed his colours to the wall, he admitted he is a right wing neo [oops] that thinks its ok to kill people and topple democracies for money.Just keep preaching ur rational thoughts, most people think neo-cons are insane anyway


Stop talking shiite, where did he say that?


He said we had to take down the Secular Democractic Govt of Iran to protect our economy. Which is a an imperialistic declaration of war on the whole world, if you have resources its ok for us to kill you and steal it, to use chemical weapons against u, to torture and terrorize you.

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
If you rise up against the muslim world and turn them away from britain, America and the west, they will feel unwanted and will turn to someone who wants them, someone who will make them feel like they belong. That someone will be ISIS and they will grow. It will play straight into their hands.

The only way to fight inhumanity is with humanity.


You know what, those terrorists in France are grand children of migrants who were accepted in France decades ago. Europe accepted all sorts of religions and races, however, a most of them integrated the society for example Indians in UK, instead of bombing their fellow countrymen.


this is right! they don't want to mix with locals, they keep their kids out of neighbourhood schools, send them to muslim only schools, don't learn the language, don't join the country's armed services and don't subscribe to the general consensus of the country they live in and except welfare payments from! so no wonder they are looked upon as strange why come to a western country if you don't want to take part in their way of life ? what is the point ?


Most of the Syrians coming here are fleeing, they don't have a choice . They are fleeing the middle east because it has been turned into a murderous hellhole - by us.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
If you rise up against the muslim world and turn them away from britain, America and the west, they will feel unwanted and will turn to someone who wants them, someone who will make them feel like they belong. That someone will be ISIS and they will grow. It will play straight into their hands.

The only way to fight inhumanity is with humanity.


You know what, those terrorists in France are grand children of migrants who were accepted in France decades ago. Europe accepted all sorts of religions and races, however, a most of them integrated the society for example Indians in UK, instead of bombing their fellow countrymen.


Islamic terrorism is new, there have been muslims in France and elsewhere long before there was Islamic terrorism. So then you look for reasons why Islamic terrorism against the west has sky rocketed. Oh yes because the west started killing everyone in the poorest parts of the middle east, perfect correlation .. stop the drone attacks ,start talking to iran ,stop being friends with the fundamentalist govts. reverse our policies and I am pretty sure Islamic fundamentalism will be greatly reduced

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If terrorism is all to do with western policies then should we change those policies ? And on whose direction ? are we to be slaves of whom exactly ? We are a free democractic society but that freedom has come through fighting for our freedom. Also if it's all to do with western policy how come the majority of terrorists or at least an equal number are westerners of Muslim religion and how come many of the victims are Muslims by Muslim on Muslim voilence on the wrong type of Muslims in IS eyes such as we are seeing in Syria is that the west too ? And how come if it's to do with western foreign policies we have heard no political demands from them?

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It's nothing whatsoever to do with western foreign policy ask yourself this why are were Palestinians not involved in the attacks in Paris ? Or any of the attacks ? And why are these attacks not just limited to America but the whole world. Why would a bunch of young men who had never lived anywhere else in their lives but Leeds in England strap bombs to themselves and kill anyone they could find indiscriminately ? Without political demands This is an ideological war between religions that goes right back to the 7th century this is what this is all about those on the far left are using this to make political points about the west they hate so much but not enough it seems to live here. But we must not make the mistake of demonising all Muslims this is what the zealots want to drive them out of western societies to strengthen the caliphate this is a war but of war of minds as much as bombs.


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