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They have now executed a Chinese citizen I guess for being a Western infidel that deserved to die because of his countries military bombing campaign. Oh wait, he's Asian and China hasn't embarked on military action outside it's borders in many hundreds of years.
I suppose if you go west from Syria and keep going you'll get to China so they could be considered westerners! They'll kill anyone and everyone regardless of race or religion. The west's foreign policy may well have helped these groups come to prominence in some way but it's not the only reason. They even kill other Muslims that don't agree or want to join them FFS.
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can someone please tell me who were the scumbag terrorists who invaded and landgrabbed what is today the usa, almost annihilating the native americans in the process. are these the same people who did this to s america, africa, australia and nz ? all countries that have been the major power in their region have done this throughout history Egypt , Palestine, mongols, French ,German, probably Syria under another name Iran Iraq, Danes myans in sth America Inca's Mexicans, Japanese so their is no inocents in this regard so whats your point ? how is Syria in Britain's or America's region? How is Lydia in their region? Iraq? Also, have we not learnt from past mistakes, have we jot advanced and evolved? Just because it's happened before does not make it ok. If anything, repeating the same atrocities knowing the outcome will cost human lives, makes it worse. So what's your point? It's happened before so it's OK?
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Good vs Evil...
You couldn't make it up.
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They have now executed a Chinese citizen I guess for being a Western infidel that deserved to die because of his countries military bombing campaign. Oh wait, he's Asian and China hasn't embarked on military action outside it's borders in many hundreds of years.
What was that I read about yon opium war against china again? Yeah, those Arabs have much to pay for...Oh wait....it wasn’t ‘em Arab’s, it was...oh lordy, lordy, how forgetful I’ve become... who was it again?
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The west is already supporting the illegal military occupying state in Palestian - i.e Isreal...against the majority of the wishes of the vast number of UN countries and against the ruling of the International Criminal Court.
The Western govts knew these attacks were coming they are not stupid..umpteen studies were done and they all concluded that drone strikes and the iraqi war would destabilize the middle east and increase terrorist attacks in the west. Exactly what has happened . We did it anyway cause neo-conservative right wing nutjobs stole the democractic election in the USA and you lot just wanna hang around with the biggest bully there is. Read the "project for a new American century".. we are living in the world outlined in this paper...deregulated finance (which destroyed our economies and allowed elites steal all our money and future money) and endless American controlled Asymmetric_warfare prompted by a "new pearl harbour" and I am not even joking - the neocons where hoping for a new pearl harbour that would allow them to pursue their insane foreign policy ambitions because they knew they could scare the crap out of people like u stan You are in the minority presumably you would leave Islamic state to carry on sexual slavery beheadings torture murder and genocide of the innocents in Syria? What a moron but like I say you are a tiny majority of far left cranks. As for your idea of Iran doing it on their own that's ludicrous they don't have the firepower but they are likely to be in the coalition of forces doing so which will include Russia and sixty or more countries. Good vs evil basically and it's clear which side you are on. Some very harsh accusations there Stan. Perhaps tone it down a bit, the tonality and insinuations are inversely proportional to the strength of your argument. Good vs Evil. Hahaha Let me guess, the Americans and Brits are the good guys, just like in Hollywood.
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Why is it that when Emp or somebody else says, we shoulder a good part of the blame for the rise of ISIS, they are termed morons or pro torture and terror? That is far from what he is saying.
All we are saying is, bombing the crap out of them will.only foster further hatred, extremism and terrorism.
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Even the British left wing political parties are moving towards sanctioning British strikes on Is in Syria there will be a grand coalition of the free world and the not so free (Russia / Iran) this will be not without danger with Islamic state all but gone and potentially Iran stronger in the region (Iran has pledged to wipe Israel off the map which is why emp is so pro Iran) and of course the potential for another medieval Islamic terror group to emerge. But despite this, fight we must doing nothing is far more dangerous as other posters have highlighted this is not a political enemy anyone who does not adhere to their ideology Muslim or non Muslim from whatever place will be killed tortured or enslaved. We are fighting for survival it's as simple as that
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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You're forgetting kill thousands times more than any 'terroist' attack and destroy a countries infrastructure so it never recovers. I'm sure we'll stick around to help rebuild it though.
'When they do it's terroism, when we do it's counter-terrosim'
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Great so we are all in this endless crusader war and for no other reason than money and greed. Where have all the sensible people gone? nutjob fundamentalists on both sides.
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Too far gone EMP, give up, I have. In the end, people probably know what's going on but don't really care, as long as they get their choices of ice-cream and mobile phones that can scramble eggs.
Bought Fisk's book. Didn't realise it was so damn thick..
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