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One thing has got nothing to do with the other, I would say the same - lets stop committing crimes and fueling these groups. ISIS needs to go , but the west has a two faced policy towards ISIS , remember we are friends with the countries that fund ISIS and enemies of their enemies, i.e the shia's. We have created this mess, invasions and drone strikes are terrorist attacks on a much bigger and consistent scale than we have faced. Imagine your home town or city surrounded by drones. That report says that up to 90% of drone victims could be innocents, that is pure evil terrorism - we don't have to wonder why ISIS and anti west hatred has come about

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/no...-whistleblowers

Again an obvious connection but at least there is now insiders coming out with it. The military complex wants this endless war, but we as humans must not accept it. Missiles that appear out of nowhere and kill ur mum or ur sister or ur sons or daughters, it drives these people insane and it drives them to hate the people responsible. We need a civilized western society, lets stop our own crimes and hopefully by doing that we won't have as many crimes committed against us.

my point is - refer to an earlier post where i suggested inter alia that borders should be removed and people free to choose where they wish to live.

Why do you think that there are specific targets where drone operate? They do it in Afghanistan but not in India for instance? Well because there is a threat in Afghanistan and not in India where people are not trying to bomb people in the west.

I would rather say that if ISIS is left alone they'll take over Syria and Iraq (whether the Shias fight them or not) and they would spread like wild fire, starting in Europe where they have a lot of sympathisers. They have to be eliminated now and US and UK should stop pissing around and should join Russia and France (now) to wipe them out. I prefer to live in a world where the West is stronger than with some mad people wanting to spread their religion all over the world stopping girls to go to school etc and forcing non muslims to convert or die. If you prefer the latter that's your problem, not mine.

The west is already supporting the illegal military occupying state in Palestian - i.e Isreal...against the majority of the wishes of the vast number of UN countries and against the ruling of the International Criminal Court.

The Western govts knew these attacks were coming they are not stupid..umpteen studies were done and they all concluded that drone strikes and the iraqi war would destabilize the middle east and increase terrorist attacks in the west. Exactly what has happened . We did it anyway cause neo-conservative right wing nutjobs stole the democractic election in the USA and you lot just wanna hang around with the biggest bully there is. Read the "project for a new American century".. we are living in the world outlined in this paper...deregulated finance (which destroyed our economies and allowed elites steal all our money and future money) and endless American controlled Asymmetric_warfare prompted by a "new pearl harbour" and I am not even joking - the neocons where hoping for a new pearl harbour that would allow them to pursue their insane foreign policy ambitions because they knew they could scare the crap out of people like u stan

You are in the minority presumably you would leave Islamic state to carry on sexual slavery beheadings torture murder and genocide of the innocents in Syria? What a moron but like I say you are a tiny majority of far left cranks. As for your idea of Iran doing it on their own that's ludicrous they don't have the firepower but they are likely to be in the coalition of forces doing so which will include Russia and sixty or more countries. Good vs evil basically and it's clear which side you are on.