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The civil war has not finished its not even started yet there are likely to be more terrorist attacks but the gun battle in the centre of Paris has ended yes. Civil war Stanley? That's pushing it surely as is a lot of your language on this issue, funny I didn't figure you for a rabble rouser, or a war monger, but your language here is quite intemperate, to put it mildly, don't you think you should lighten up a bit?
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The civil war has not finished its not even started yet there are likely to be more terrorist attacks but the gun battle in the centre of Paris has ended yes. Civil war Stanley? That's pushing it surely as is a lot of your language on this issue, funny I didn't figure you for a rabble rouser, or a war monger, but your language here is quite intemperate, to put it mildly, don't you think you should lighten up a bit? Well not really I am very angry Paris was not a one off events like it have been happening for a long time if groups of men carrying rocket launchers grenades and assault rifles in one of our major cities is not civil war then I don't know what is. Like I say nothing unusual over Paris the British government have so far foiled 600 terrorist threats on UK soil one of which would have made the Paris attacks look like a Sunday school picnic. I also live in an area where every day my life and my family could be next. So sorry for being a bit emotional and I am also angry being told it's all our own fault I don't care what your beliefs are or what grievance you have nothing justifies this
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there you go woofa did my best! I admit gramma is not my strong point when I'm in a hurry it tends to be completely omitted  as far as I have read/heard non of the Muslim leaders of religious, state or countries has come out and said something like this, to all good Islam's rise and expose those responsible for isis, get their names where they live there family and inform the government! give them no shelter, no food and no water for they are evil ! I think its called a fatwa on them?they did it to someone who wrote a book ffs ? so how about on some Muslim terrorists because as I have said before someone knows these people and their family, girlfriends, friends! why haven't they spoken out and dobbed em in I know they haven't because isis stills exists! so I think there are more than people think that support this group ! oh well such is life I wont worry that you couldn't read it if it was too hard for you! but in regards to violence, most don't endorse violence but look what happened to the Jews turning the other cheek doesn't always work! but in nature animals, plants, fish, everything basically protect themselves by doing something to make them less appealing to others that might want them as food or their territory, this usually involves more force than what is being applied to them or violence does it not ?our problem is we pussy foot around with these clowns instead of giving them a hiding they wouldn't want repeated! same when I was bouncer saying be nice lads or behave please didn't work!however when you shove their arm up behind there necks and give em clout! they and others think twice about causing trouble again and I'm sorry but that's the way it is! act soft you get more trouble in my experience ? No it does not. It involves methods such as camouflage, symbiosis, deception, developing evolutionary advantages, for example the ability to store nutrients within their bodies and use them in conditions when nutrients are not available in the environment, speed, night vision etc. Actually, in nature, violence is very rarely IF EVER, applied as a precautionary measure. As a matter of fact, when is violence used in nature as a precautionary measure? I would welcome an example. Have you ever seen a fish attack a fisherman as a precaution? Have you ever seen a gazelle attack a lion as a precaution. Defensive and preventative measures are 2 very different things. I think your just having a go for the sake of having go plants eat insects that walk into there traps, Ive seen sharks attack and eat people, have you ever seen lions let other lions intrude on their territory without a fight, same with fish,monkeys, birds, ants pretty much all wildlife defends and and attacks intruders in their territory, ive seen lions hunt down and kill hyenas because they just don't like them and hyenas do the same to lions! don't no why your highlighting precaution I'm saying violence is pretty much used by most animals in defending offspring and territory! and even revenge killings happen, ive seen chimps hunt and rip apart other monkeys and eat them I have never seen any wildlife forgive intrusions or attacks on offspring all is met with force,violence and anger, where have I said defence and precaution are the same I am saying turning the other cheek don't work tolerance don't work as they keep pushing and then what more tolerance sorry for me its nut em , deck em and kick the F uck out of them then they wont bother you again always worked for me! maybe you let people take the p155 out of you and take things from you hurt your family friends and country I don't guess were different have you ever seen lions let other lions intrude on their territory without a fight, same with fish,monkeys, birds, ants pretty much all wildlife defends and and attacks intruders in their territoryWhat you said just strengthens my views...Who invaded whose territory? Did muslims invade French, British or American territory or did Nato along with all those countries invade Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc? I agree that turning the other cheek does not work, which is what the terrorists seem to have realised too. They are returning fire as a result of the fact that these countries interfered in their internal affairs and invaded their territory. Had the Brits, French and Nato stayed out of their business, I am 100% positive that ISIS would not even exist today.
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Funny I live in a country a metaphorical stone throws away from Stans, much more Christian , equal western values. near 2% muslim population to the uk's 4.5% - ireland's threat factor is almost zero. You might not like getting told its your govt's policies that started this whole mess but it is so in your face obvious that you are an ignorant and dangerous fool if you refuse to face up to that fact. Instead of stoking up Civil wars and racism you should trying to figure out ways to rectify your own govts mess.
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The west has not invaded Syria ninja we are bombing Islamic state there to protect the citizens of Iraq and Syria who are being butchered and tortured. Yet to hear some speak you would think we had invaded a peaceful country and Islamic state are acting in revenge. Islamic state have made no political demands they want the world to be ruled in by a brutal interpretation of Islam. You can't negotiate with that.
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[quote=sixtiesred][quote=Ninja Skrtel][quote=sixtiesred]as far as I have read/heard non of the Muslim leaders of religious, state or countries has come out and said something like this to all good Islam's rise and expose those responsible for isis their names where they live there family and inform the government give them no shelter no food and no water for they are evil ! I think its called a fatwa on them they did for someone who wrote a book how about on some Muslim terrorists because as I have said before someone knows these people and their family girlfriends friends why haven't they spoken out and dobbed em in I know they haven't because isis stills exists so I think there are more than people think that support this group !
You see, I really wasn't having a go at you at all and here you go being rude again. I guess it says more about you than me though. Such is life. \ your delusional I wasn't rude I just didn't give F uck if it was hard to read for u that's all don't read it I don't care  what a nice lad you are. Someone asks you politely, nicely, just to make your posts a bit easier to read, and your reply is "I don't give a fvck!". Lovely. Again, says more about you than me. well I don't ! especially with you because I know your a p155 taking anything for an argument type of guy that was trying to blame the woes of the world on the British in previous posts! I think you should look in your own back yard before poking sticks at others humans in total were guilty of all the things you were saying were down to the brits or the yanks and if its too hard for you to read don't bother I can live with that no loss or problem for me NO, i am not blaming the worlds problems on Brits or Americans or any nation, I am just stating that in my opinion, the FACT taht the British and Americans and Nato interferred in other countries internal affairs has contributed to the current situation. As far as you calling me a p1ss taker, thats not very nice, i was attempting to indulge in a discussion and even started off by letting you know I was not having a go, because I know how defensive you get when someone mentions your punctuation. The fact is, you seem to be looking for a squable. I will not indulge you. As a matter of fact you were one of the reasons I kept away from the forum for a while and chose rather to get a DKB subscription, where i don't have to deal with such issues. If you feel like I am taking the p1ss, that's your problem and I wasn't the only one who told you that that post was near impossible to comprehend. Bygones.
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Funny I live in a country a metaphorical stone throws away from Stans, much more Christian , equal western values. near 2% muslim population to the uk's 4.5% - ireland's threat factor is almost zero. You might not like getting told its your govt's policies that started this whole mess but it is so in your face obvious that you are an ignorant and dangerous fool if you refuse to face up to that fact. Instead of stoking up Civil wars and racism you should trying to figure out ways to rectify your own govts mess. And how many people does the 2% in Ireland count for compared to the 4.5% in the UK or England?
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The west has not invaded Syria ninja we are bombing Islamic state there to protect the citizens of Iraq and Syria who are being butchered and tortured. Yet to hear some speak you would think we had invaded a peaceful country and Islamic state are acting in revenge. Islamic state have made no political demands they want the world to be ruled in by a brutal interpretation of Islam. You can't negotiate with that. WHAT? Excuse, and who has funded the anti-Assad rebels? Who has attempted to dismantle the governing powers and instill their own? Who overthrew Saddam? Who funded the Iraqi rebels? WHo funded the rebels against Gadaffi in Lybia? WHo has used the same methods to overthrow governments around the world time and time again? Be realistic.
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Do we in the west not also get requests for help in some of these internal disputes too ninja? Syrians were definitely asking for help against Asad and the government was getting slated for not doing. Seems we could be damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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Ask yourselves "Why do these terrorist attacks not happen in Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Portugal, Luxembourg, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Venezuela, Mozambique etc? Because these countries are not interferring in the internal affairs of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
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