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These are the words of ex CIA station chief in Kabul, former Vice Chair of the National Intelligence Agency :Graham Fuller
We must remember that there would be no ISIS today if the US had not invaded and destroyed Iraq’s leadership, government, ruling institutions, elites, army, infrastructure and social order.
which is actually pretty obvious I dunno why I even posted it now
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The problem is not fundamentally religion.
The problem is certain states creating vacuums and then not filling that vacuum.
Iraq - Saddam deposed
Afghanistan - Taliban deposed.
No sustainable government reintroduced by the US/UK and look what happens?
The rise of ISIS.
Now say what you will about Saddam Hussein but if he had still been in charge of Iraq could you ever see ISIS gaining power in the middle east?
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as far as I have read/heard non of the Muslim leaders of religious, state or countries has come out and said something like this to all good Islam's rise and expose those responsible for isis their names where they live there family and inform the government give them no shelter no food and no water for they are evil ! I think its called a fatwa on them they did for someone who wrote a book how about on some Muslim terrorists because as I have said before someone knows these people and their family girlfriends friends why haven't they spoken out and dobbed em in I know they haven't because isis stills exists so I think there are more than people think that support this group ! seriously, not being funny or rude or having a go mate, but I did not understand 3 quarters of what you wrote. Please use some punctuation or something because at the moment that post makes very little sense. but regards violence most don't endorse violence but look what happened to the Jews turning the other cheek doesn't always work! but in nature animals plants fish all protect themselves by doing something to make them less appealing to others that might want them as food or their territory and usually involves more force than what is being applied to them does it not ? our problem is we pussy foot around with these clowns instead of giving them a hiding they wont want repeated same when I was bouncer be nice lads behave please didn't work however when you shove their arm up behind there necks and give em clout! them and others think twice about causing trouble again and I'm sorry but that's the way it is! act soft you get more trouble By not using any punctuation you make your posts very difficult to read. Though having just read this post your lack of punctuation is probably a blessing in disguise.
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The problem is not fundamentally religion.
The problem is certain states creating vacuums and then not filling that vacuum.
Iraq - Saddam deposed
Afghanistan - Taliban deposed.
No sustainable government reintroduced by the US/UK and look what happens?
The rise of ISIS.
Now say what you will about Saddam Hussein but if he had still been in charge of Iraq could you ever see ISIS gaining power in the middle east? You could say the same about any dictator really, even Hitler. Doesn't mean they should be left to rule with an iron fist and most are / were just as bad as ISIS anyway.
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Full scale civil war going on in France continuous machine gun exchanges you can post as many links and utube films as you like they are bollox we are at war simple as
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Full scale civil war going on in France continuous machine gun exchanges you can post as many links and utube films as you like they are bollox we are at war simple as Great the endless war that was started by neocon right wing capitalist racist nutjobs. You must be thrilled. Instead of doing everything in our power to be at war we should be doing everything in our power to reverse the neo-[oops] nutjub era. Vote Corybn and Sanders, we need to mobilize and get these two in office or we are doomed. bty love the scaremongering with the "full scale civil war in France" u really are Donald Trump
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Full scale civil war going on in France continuous machine gun exchanges you can post as many links and utube films as you like they are bollox we are at war simple as Great the endless war that was started by neocon right wing capitalist racist nutjobs. You must be thrilled. Instead of doing everything in our power to be at war we should be doing everything in our power to reverse the neo-[oops] nutjub era. Vote Corybn and Sanders, we need to mobilize and get these two in office or we are doomed. bty love the scaremongering with the "full scale civil war in France" u really are Donald Trump Corbyn will get us all killed and he won't even make the general election so is a non-starter anyway. But I wouldn't say France have a full scale civil war. They only went after who they thought the instigator of the attack was didn't they which is understandable.
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yeah typical right wing opinion of a decent man, why would he get us all killed cause he is against War , against the capitalists that have destroyed economies and started wars for the last few decades. Its time we started electing real people not fecking scaremongering warmongering elitists that only represent the corporations and the military industry.
Who is Corbyn going to start a war with? who exactly is going to kill us all if he gets elected. Elitist propaganda, the last half way decent man that was a world leader was FDR and he pulled USA out of economic death, set up the social welfare state that saved Europe after ww2 and every right wing lunatic that has come since has been reversing that trend and giving all the money to the elite,destroying labour, supporting dictators, funding religious fundamentalism and starting wars. Its u and ur type that are going to get us all killed.
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I am pretty sure emp in 1938 had we had social media the net would be full of utube films and links saying the British are warmongers and hitler was a good guy and any action he took was our fault. Pretty sure there were people like that then and they exist today. As for voting Corbyn he is probably not going to be labour leader before long. His idiotic comments about not allowing the police to fire back in the event of a terrorist attack led to a furious response with his MP,s resulting in him changing his mind the next day and in the commons there was empty benches none if his MP,s turned up. The man is a complete joke not my opinion his own MP,s.
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Labour MP's don't represent the people, they are more right than left these days.The fact they can't stand him is a great sign, the people of the uk mobilized and got Corbyn elected and I so hope you do it again when the elections start. You prefer ur pig fuuuking secret society elitist people hating upper class twits that belt out the same george bush type policies but the people are sick of them and labour- out to the polls again people -vote corbyn and sanders in the west...let the George Bush nutbag era finally die.
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